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Old May 15, 2006 | 12:42 PM
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Ever seen an engine this dirty?

Well I'm working on swapping a rebuilt longblock 360 FE into my old 76 ford F-150. I got the intake manifold off and was amazed by how much crud I found inside!

Yuck:
http://cleedo.com/ftp/incoming/oldfe1.gif

Piles and piles of carbon or whatever that is! It's like piled over 1/2" thick...
http://cleedo.com/ftp/incoming/oldfe2.gif


Caked on all over the valve area too:
http://cleedo.com/ftp/incoming/oldfe3.gif

And look, unidentified fragments of some destroyed part, I don't know what... These are all over the place:
http://cleedo.com/ftp/incoming/oldfe4.gif

Anyways, what do you think? Pretty nasty? What causes this usually?

A lot of dingalings used this truck before I got it (family members), it was originally my grandpa's. It has smoked and burned oil for at least the last 35,000 miles, probably more like the last 50,000 miles. People have put stop-leak, "motor honey", "no smoke" or whatever, and all kinds of other crap in this engine to try and make it stop smoking. Nobody actually tried to fix it. By the time I got it, the compression readings were so bad and improved with a wet test, so I assumed the rings were bad. I'm swapping in the long block this week.

Also some mentally challenged person ran straight water in the radiator for a long time, instead of antifreeze. The intake manifold has incredible amounts of rust, as does the block.

You would never guess that this engine has only 70,000 miles on it, from the day it was purchased at Earnhardt's Ford in 1976!
 

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Old May 15, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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I rebuilt a 428 FE for my 64 Galaxie that was so dirty that I could not get the push rods out of the intake, I think that it still had the original ford oil filter on it from the factory in 1966 and I got it in 1976. Your bits of pieces look like the valve seals.
 
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Old May 15, 2006 | 01:52 PM
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i vote valve seals also... i pulled my grandpa's old engine apart and it looked just like that... penzoil is some nasty stuff. it's parafin based oil- and that means wax, which is what all that black crap is, burned up nasty wax.. like bertha said, i could't get the pushrods outta the holes either..
 
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Old May 15, 2006 | 02:21 PM
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Hellbore, can you possibly remove the IMG tags from that message? That way, only the links will show.

There's lots of people with dialup on here, and it really hangs them up for a long time (no pun intended).

I have a 30 Megabit cable modem (I get 27) and it took a while for those pics to load, can you imagine at 56K dialup speeds?

Thanks!

PS: There's no moderator for this forum, and I'm not going to bother an admin for this. Can you tell I've recently been indoctrinated to moderator-land?
 
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Old May 15, 2006 | 02:58 PM
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Someone didn't like detergent oil or oil changes. I've seen others at least as bad.
 
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Old May 15, 2006 | 03:14 PM
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I would edit my post and get rid of the images liek you asked but i can't find an edit buttoN!

It lets me edit this reply I am writing right now (I am editing as we speak) but it won't let me edit my original post!
 
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Old May 15, 2006 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Hellbore
I would edit my post and get rid of the images liek you asked but i can't find an edit buttoN!

It lets me edit this reply I am writing right now (I am editing as we speak) but it won't let me edit my original post!
Oh well... thanks for trying! I've heard about that limited-edit thing before. Haven't seen it myself. I'll ask around if that's intentional.

thanks!
 
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Old May 15, 2006 | 04:21 PM
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Each member has only 60 minutes to edit a post after that....I will need to do it...
 
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Old May 15, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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Old May 15, 2006 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Redmanbob
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Old May 15, 2006 | 04:28 PM
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Oh yeah, that motor is FILTHY!!!!!

But I saw a 289 that was worse. My mother's. And an I6-300 that when my machinist took off the valve-cover there looked like another one underneath it. With a few holes in it
 
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Old May 15, 2006 | 04:56 PM
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i was doing the head gaskets on my uncles 89 chebby with a 350 in it and to get the push rods out it took me pushin as hard as i could from the bottom and my cousin pullin as hard as he could from the top. there was a half inch of sludge every where and i mean EVERY where. he has pictures of it but i havent been able to get them from him yet.
 
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Old May 15, 2006 | 10:06 PM
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Penzoil is nasty stuff. The PO of my 400 had only used Penzoil since it was new and I had seen most of the service records. I pulled the valve covers to replace the gaskets at 120K and it looked like there was another cover under the first one. The carbon reproduced every feature on the inside of the cover even the Ford logo. It was so solid I had to break it off with a screwdriver and putty knife. I tried not to let any of it go down the drain holes but of course some did. I flushed as much as I could thru the pan. What a mess...
 
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Old May 15, 2006 | 10:54 PM
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That's pretty bad...

But I've seen worse! I got a junkyard 360 motor a while ago for spare parts while building my 390. The inside of that motor was like someone dunked the thing in a giant vat of asphalt. Same color, same consistancy.

The motor had spun the #5 rod bearing. Little chunks of bearing were in the bottom of the oil pan.

Edit: Oh I just remembered! While the motor was still in the back of the truck, the day I got back from the junkyard, I removed the oil pan to take a look; to see what crank it had in it. I noticed the #5 rod didn't quite look right. Take the thing, push it back and forth on the crank.

"dink dink dink"

Me: "It aint supposed to do this, is it?"

Dad: "I dont think so."

Priceless.
 

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Old May 15, 2006 | 11:55 PM
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This thing ran?!

Oh the things that make you go BLuuAAHH!!!!!
 
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