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Old May 10, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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I will be getting my 46637 Filter tomorrow,
I was thinking about the CCV mod,
Its seems that what ever you do to it ,that there might be some draw backs, if you run it to the open air you have smell, If you run it into the exhaust you might not be getting proper vacum to keep the engine vented enough,
I have 2 weeks ago cleaned my boots and tubes, and now 2 weeks later I am seeing a small oil pubble in the driverside tube..
(wonder how much is in intercooler after 146,000)
So my questions are this:

1)After the mod was done was there any difference in oil color during oil changes or has there been any oil testing to see what the contents were and has there been any changes noticed.?
(I change mine every 3000-3500 and my oil looks almost as good as when i put the Fresh oil in,)
The reason I ask this about the oil sample is that on large 8 class trucks that have the blow-by just vented to the outside they have a high idle switch that will kill the engine unless you have the RPM's up over idle, due to the oil in the engine picking up acids from Blow-by that can cause damage to the engine bearings due to low RPM, (But then we change oil 3-5,000 class 8 are usally 10,000 changes)

2) I was thinking about making some kind of cheap catch can out of PVC parts and fittings to install in line with the original hose routing from valve cover to intake, that would some how catch the oil but still let the factory routing still induct the gases into the intake...

If I attempt this I will be trying to make it as cheap as possible, maybe something that just has a plate in it that the oils in the gases will pass around or though allowing most of the oils to accumilate in the catch can and let full presure past,
I would also have to reclean the boots then inspect in 2 weeks to see if there i a reduction in accumilation and how much is found in the catch can...

Any Ideas would be welcome. and what ever I come up with will be put on here as an How-to with pic's and for other members to enjoy is it is possible to do
Thanks
Rick
 
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Old May 10, 2006 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rickgmi

2) I was thinking about making some kind of cheap catch can out of PVC parts and fittings to install in line with the original hose routing from valve cover to intake, that would some how catch the oil but still let the factory routing still induct the gases into the intake...
Thats exactly how mine is, and the pvc catch can is mounted to the frame below the drivers seat, if I find time I will post pics, I even have an isometric assembly AutoCad drawing of it that I did for a drafting class.
 
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Old May 10, 2006 | 02:15 PM
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We're always looking for new ideas and better designs. I'd be interested on how you build (built) yours. HERE is how I built mineand its been working great for months now, no drips on the driveway and I still don't see any oil residue on the outside of the can.
 
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Old May 10, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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So far today im just doing the open style CCV mod,
What I have been thinking of is a closed can that has a diverter in it and forces the gases to flow though some bleached Rocks,
I got the idea from what is called a German aquarium set up, where the water is forced though what is called Bio *****, but with gases instead,,thinking that the gases would rub against the rocks causing most of the gases to lose there oil content,
And can easily be inspected though normal maintenance, where you can just open the cap and lookin for when it need to be emptied,
I do understand that some engine will have more blow-by then others som I am taking this into account..
(Just remeber you heard it here first, this is a mod that i want to benefit everyone if it works and its like a poor mans patent, but im not trying to make money off this...)
 
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Old May 10, 2006 | 04:17 PM
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Rick,

I think garyt has done the exact setup you're thinking of. His goes from the CCV breather, to a can thing with filters in it, with a drain on the bottom, and then is returned back to the intake. Here's his webshots on it:
http://community.webshots.com/album/65976617UPIyFC

Here's a description he's posted in the past:
CCV MOD INSTRUCTIONS

1:Remove top of air cleaner, rubber intake hose and the solid piece that the OEM CCV goes into (if you can remove the rubber elbow then leave the piece on).

2:Remove the CCV breather on the top of the driver’s side rocker cover.
Be careful, there are “O” rings under it. Clean it up, put some grease on the “O” rings to hold them in place, turn it 180 degrees so the outlet points to the rear and replace it.

3:Mount the new CCV bracket under the driver’s side floor about 14’’ from the fender well directly in back of the tire. This puts it to the left of the frame near the body mount. There is a lot of room here, hold the whole unit up to get an idea of placement and mark some holes.

4:un a ¾’ heater hose from the breather outlet OVER THE BRAKE BOOSTER (this is important!!) down to the bottom fitting on the can. You may need to use an elbow where it comes out of the breather on top of the engine. It is important to run the hose up and over the booster as this lets the heavy oil vapors coming out of the breather to condense and run back into the engine.

5:Run another length of hose from the top outlet of the new CCV back to the original piece on the intake.
If you don’t want to do that you can fabricate an inlet into the air cleaner box somewhere. Home Depot has lots of plastic fittings you can fool around with, some electrical conduit fittings will work also.


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For my setup I've just got it venting straight from the breather through a hose back to behind the bumper. I don't smell anything unless I go back and bend down and sniff under the bumper, and it was pretty easy. I can always splice in a T w/ a drain or something if that ever becomes necessary, but I don't see any oil AT ALL so far in the hose.

Here's mine: http://community.webshots.com/album/550023161EhGKoH (page 2 of that album)
 
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Old May 10, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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Thanks Ryan.
I tried all day to search for something like that but came up empty..
Yes that is almost what i was thinking with the eception that it would be mounted in the engine compartment with removable top, and bottom drain, something you can check on,

Also would like to tell you im doing the CCV today,,just like yours till i get the plans for the catch can going, just using a 4 inch replacement for the CCV intake..Thanks again
 
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Old May 10, 2006 | 05:14 PM
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Yeah, I just ran mine like that figuring I can always modify it later if I need to. I had actually bought 25' of heater hose back in like December planning to do the CCV, but then did more reading and decided the clear hose was best so I could see if it ever got clogged, oil in it, etc. Just finally got around to actually doing it a week and a half ago.

Now I've got to figure out what to do w/ this 25' coil of heater hose in my garage.
 
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Old May 10, 2006 | 05:48 PM
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Advertise and sell it as a quick repair for a dodge or chevy, tell them the repair only take 6 inches and get rich...lol...j/k
 
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What kind of time frame did it take you guys to do this?
 
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Old May 11, 2006 | 04:15 PM
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I have pictures of this procedure if you guys check in my user cp. It may help and keep in mide its a guide line but worked well for me.
 
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Old May 11, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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for those that think that putting it in the exhaust will restrict the ability for the gasses to be pushed out, that's not true. the way i have it actually creates a pressure drop in the hose, which actually pulls the vapors from the hose. but, that is good because i have at least 15' of the hose to go through. the mist is highly visible on sunny days at idle and at throttle positions while parked.
 
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