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Old May 3, 2006 | 09:11 PM
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Stanadyne Injectors?

I happen to be able to get a hold of some stanadyne products for cheap. I know of people using fuel additives. But what about injectors, fuel pumps, ect? Stanadyne says they dont make anything for our powerstrokes, but what do you guys think of improvising?
 
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Old May 3, 2006 | 09:24 PM
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stanadyne made injectors (nozzles) for the idi (indirect injection) engines. They fire using about 1400 to 2000 psi fuel pressure from the injection pump.
The power strokes use HUI injectors that are fired using high pressure oil with lots more than 2000 psi and are controlled by wire. Its a whole different animal than the pre powerstroke engine. Idi parts are not interchangeable to the power stroke engines.
 
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Old May 3, 2006 | 10:00 PM
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Has anyone made a common rail conversion to the powerstroke?
 
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Old May 3, 2006 | 11:47 PM
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Has anyone made a common rail conversion to the powerstroke?
Hmmm. That would cost as much or more to just go buy a common rail truck than try and make that work.

Edit: Oops, I meant it would cost more to make it work than to just go buy a common rail truck.
 

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Old May 3, 2006 | 11:49 PM
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Isn't the fuel rail in the head considered a common rail?
 
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Old May 4, 2006 | 12:32 AM
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I want to use stanadynes stuff to improve performance on my powerstroke, but I dont know how to go about it. I can get any part from them for next to nothing, so even if it took some fabricating id be willing to make a project out of it. I just dont know where to start.
 
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Old May 4, 2006 | 06:22 AM
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Isn't the fuel rail in the head considered a common rail?
well kinda sorta, but not really. the fuel is fed to the injectors by a common rail under a common pressure, but is at low pump pressure, not injection pressure. i dont know too much about common rail, and we are going to be going over them very soon in class. we are in the fuel systems unit, with detroit MUI, multi plunger and distributor pumps out of the way.
 
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Originally Posted by VQ2Fast4U
I want to use stanadynes stuff to improve performance on my powerstroke, but I dont know how to go about it. I can get any part from them for next to nothing, so even if it took some fabricating id be willing to make a project out of it. I just dont know where to start.
ok to start with you need blank heads with no valve or injector holes then engineer a new law out for you head then figure out how you will drive an injection pump. by the way you will need to eliminate the computer and figure out how to drive then transmission and a number of other things. and i could continue with atleast $10,000 worth of other engineering that would need to be done. IT NOT WORTH CONSIDERING!!!

you would pretty much have to completely reengineer your entire top half of you engine and you would gain much performance. standyne makes good products when you use it for what it is intended for. their products aren't intended for powerstroke engines!
 
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well kinda sorta, but not really. the fuel is fed to the injectors by a common rail under a common pressure, but is at low pump pressure, not injection pressure. i dont know too much about common rail, and we are going to be going over them very soon in class. we are in the fuel systems unit, with detroit MUI, multi plunger and distributor pumps out of the way.
Gotcha. So by common rail, the whole rail has the fuel under high pressure, ready for injection? What's the advantages vs disadvantages of something like this?
 
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Old May 4, 2006 | 03:03 PM
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With common rail your fuel pressure (in the rail) is around 20,000 psi. You don't need a mechanical device to take your transfer pump pressure (60 psi on a powerstroke) and increase it to the 15-20 thousand psi needed for injection and or a clean complete combustion. Common rail gives you more precise metering, higher injection pressures which reduce emmissions and increase power.
 
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