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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 03:27 PM
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Paint inside of engine?

I have seen a few photos of rebuilt engines with the valley painted, does this assist with oil flow, is it worth the time? Also the metal plate behind the water pump on my 76 460 is solid but surface rusted. What should I use on this once I get the rust sanded off?
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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 10:29 PM
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I don't know about the valley painted, but i think they just paint them because for no reason (i can't think of one, i don't think it'd help in flow). Why don't you try some of that rust bullet and let us know about it. I've been thinking about doing that to my motor and then painting it with some engine paint.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 10:38 PM
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Some performance engines will have the valley painted to make a slicker surface, letting the oil flow over quicker.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 12:02 AM
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I have seen a number of engines painted inside and it indeed does make them slicker but when it comes to my engines I just deburr and smooth out all of the return passages etc. With my luck the paint would flake off and a piece would jam the oil pump.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 11:22 AM
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good point on that possibility, the deburring and smoothing is an improvement without any risks.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 01:25 PM
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As long as you get ALL the burrs and filings out of the motor, the risk is minimal. I think an iron filing is more likely to jam an oil pump than paint.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 08:54 PM
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I always do all the deburring before engine assy.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 12:43 PM
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Seems like most of the valley painted engines I've run into have flaking or adhesion problems somewhere. I simply won't do it. Why add potential trouble?
 
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 03:53 PM
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Thanks for the replies gents. I think I'll pass on the paint but will try my hand at a little deburring.
Greg
 
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Old Apr 24, 2006 | 11:39 AM
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I've heard it helps with return oil flow, however I've also heard that leaving it bare metal helps thermal transfer to help cool the oil on it's way back. The performace guys I know and myself don't thinks it's worth the risk of paint comming off... especially in a daily driver with all those temp cycles. And on a race engine the manifold is off a bit more often for inspection. I just de-burr...my .02
 
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Old Apr 24, 2006 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Torque1st
I have seen a number of engines painted inside and it indeed does make them slicker but when it comes to my engines I just deburr and smooth out all of the return passages etc. With my luck the paint would flake off and a piece would jam the oil pump.
About 25+ years ago, Smokey Yunick wrote a high performance book, probably about Cheby engines, not sure. Anyway, he stressed in his book that paint might help the oil return faster, but if it comes loose, it comes loose in strips, not small pieces. These pieces could plug up an oil pump pickup. Not that he was an expert or anything..... ;-)
 
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Old May 6, 2006 | 09:16 PM
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for what its worth, there is a product out there called "Glyptol" that you can get through Eastwoods. Eastwoods make all sorts of crazy specialty tools, paints etc for car restoration. The "Glyptol" is a clear finish you paint on the inside of the block after its bead blasted to help the oil sheet off the metal and return to the oil pan/pump.

I believe Eastwoods website is just that www.eastwoodco.com
Its a little late on the post, but I hope this helps

Al Conforti

p.s. i've never used the stuff, just relaying information based on what i've read. I would have used it but at the time I did my engine build, i couldn't wait for them to ship it to me, i had to put my motor back together quick.
 
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Old May 6, 2006 | 11:21 PM
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By the time those strips get beat around in the pan for a while they turn into small particles.
 
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Old May 7, 2006 | 10:36 AM
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pluged pickup screen is about all you get.
care to see what happened to a keith black motor that was in my race boat? it had painted valleys with high temp primer and epoxy paint.
 
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Old May 7, 2006 | 09:58 PM
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Yeowch... I have seen what happens when gunk and/or debris plugs an oil screen and I have seen some nice pretty spiral twisted pump drive shafts when a small particle got past the screen. The final effect is pretty much the same...

BTW- For the pump plate, see if you can get it zinc plated.
 
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