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Apr 1, 2006 | 08:37 AM

schik

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weak take off on a 6.0...help

i own a F-350 crew cab,used as a welding truck,im finding a very low power take off,(if this is turbo lag,then i need to fix this problem,!when i step on the gas ,it bogs and weakly crawls through the itersection,until i get up to 2500 rmp then it wakes up.Im finding it to get worse,i have an appointment with a dealer in 2 weeks ,hope to rectify this problem before i have to spend money on a dealer....

Apr 1, 2006 | 10:20 AM

BPofMD

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It does this even after up to operating temp? What year is the truck? Have you had the new recall/update reflash yet?

BTW, this thread shold be moved to the 6.0 diesel forum.

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Apr 1, 2006 | 12:54 PM

DeesO

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might be your turbo vanes sticking, do you have over boosting also?

Apr 1, 2006 | 02:21 PM

donjamer

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Schik,

I have the same problem, but the dealer says nothing wrong. I have a Manual tranny and they say that is why... DO you have a manual?

Also about a month ago someone posted a Tech bulletin on an updated Turbo for the 06 for lack of power..

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...d.php?t=471846

I have not talked to the dealer yet, but I recommend going to the appointment with this info printed out. That is what I am going to do, just been to busy..

Apr 1, 2006 | 03:46 PM

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Apr 1, 2006 | 07:19 PM

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Well Beast that is one Welcome Banner you got going. Schik, what year is your truck? Engine build date is located on the left hand ( drivers side ) valve cover.

Apr 1, 2006 | 11:26 PM

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My 2003 did the same thing. It was my ongoing complaint with the dealer. If I had a load on and stopped at a traffic light, especially if I was on any kind of grade. I had no power until the turbo spooled up and then off we went. They got most of my problem fixed when they replaced the EBP sensor. It was misinterpeting the outdoor atmospheric pressure and reducicng the output from my turbo. This same problem is addressed by the current recall that came out for 2003 6.0L about the end of February. In the recall they are disableling the sensor.

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Apr 2, 2006 | 12:57 PM

donjamer

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this is great,thanxs for all the quick responses,now i can go into the dealer ,thinging i know what im talking about,,lolo,...yes i also have a manuel trans.

Schik

Keep us posted on the outcome. I especially am interested if they fix it. This has been my only complaint with the truck..

Apr 2, 2006 | 07:29 PM

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Schik

You can check with your dealer on a TSB about your turbo. One thing that comes to mind is how you use your truck and the welder, those two combinations are are not good with the electronics. I am sure you are aware of this though.

Apr 2, 2006 | 09:31 PM

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Even if you don't have a chip or tuner, it will still over boost if the vanes are sticking. What happens is the vanes will stick at a particular setting, and won't be aggressive enough when you take off and need all the boost it can make. The computer increases the pressure on the vane actuator, until it breaks free. It then goes into a very aggressive setting, but it tends to get stuck there also. The turbo then will over boost, until the actuator is able to move it back into the middle of the operating range (which tends to be freer because this is where they stay most of the time). That is why with sticking vanes, you notice it the most when you are going from extreme to extreme (idle, WOT, idle etc). When I had my turbo vanes sticking, this is what it would do, and thus clued me in that it was mechanical and not electrical (which my tech confirmed).<O

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Apr 3, 2006 | 02:17 AM

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Here is the update on the turbo.

18958 2005-2006 F-super Duty/e-series/2005 Excursion 6.0l - Lack Of Power - Turbocharger Sticking
Some 2005-2006 F-super Duty Vehicles Built 11/4/2004 Or Later, 2005 Excursions Built 1/10/05 Or Later, And 2005-2006 E-series E350-450 Built 11/29/04 Or Later, Equipped With A 6.0l Diesel May Exhibit A Lack Of Power Condition Or Mil On With Diagnostic Trouble Codes P0299, P2263, P0478, P2262 Due To The Turbocharger Vanes Sticking From Limited Drive Cycles, Short Trips And Infrequent Usage. Please Perform The Revised Pc/ed Diagnostics (section 5, Pp Test Ak/ka) To Determine Stuck/corroded Turbocharger Vanes. A Revised Machined Recess Turbocharger (5c3z-6k682-ca) Designed Exclusively To Address Corrosion Related Turbocharger Performance Is Now Available In Service. Monitor Oasis For Tsb.
Effective Date: 11/28/2005

Apr 3, 2006 | 07:41 AM

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i would like to thank all,with this information,i will print this off and bring it to the service department,in my thoughts.....when the truck is back in my hands i shouldn't have the low power take off...nothing better then having information on the troubles prior to leaving it in a dealers hands,at 90 do;;ars an hour.........i will inform all when the trouble is fixed...thanks again.
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