You know.........this all boils down to whether you have good results or bad.

No different than a set of tires, if you buy a set of tires and have 2 of them go bad in 3000 miles you probably won't buy that brand again.
Same with the product in mention...........
I had a bad, bad, bad experience with it, that cost me a ton of money, so that is why I made the committ I did.
Done........out of here.

 

All this talk is really an opinion poll.....On one side we have the engines lasting for umpteen thousand miles using an Amsoil product and one the other side we have total distruction! Isn't that exactly the same as comparing any one product against any other product....whether oil or tiddley winks? What diff does it make if the manufacturer is a MLM or a sole source marketer?...or what he sells? This thread goes nowhere and does nothing but causes the mods to have ulcers! An individual has to make up his/her own mind on what to do.....can we leave it there?

 

The problem with your statement is that you can not produce one truck that has had its warranty voided because of Amsoil. Just show me one documented case . I would like to know who the people are that aren't as fortunate. You try to scare people into the warranty void game if they use Amsoil. Your no better that what your claiming Amsoil to be doing. I do not sell or have any ties to Amsoil.

 

You must have missed wyoguy's last post in this thread, #31. You can also ask Amsoil directly, they will ignore your question!!! I'm not trying to scare anybody! If you read my quote from Amsoil, they recommend their API ceritified oils for warranty reasons!!

 

Bob you seem to be ignoring my question. Just one documented case thats all I'm asking.I think I got my answer anyways .

 

The diesel is a different engine especially the 6.0L using an EGR. I see no problem with AMSOIL in general, I have never used the product myself, only I have 2 documented cases involving 6.0L engines that are having trouble. What routine these owners followed we don't know for sure.

As stated earlier; using the first filter for 5,000 miles, then changing the filter every 2,000 from that point on. The shear point would be my concern.

 

It would be interesting to know just what the problems these gentleman had are. After all, its very easy to point the finger at the oil, or for that matter, a chip, program, exhaust mod, air filter, etc, etc. That doesn't even take into account possible heresay, not that you, Max, would intentionally decieve, but stories always change when told over and over. Remember the old "telephone game" in school?

Besides, OA tells the tale. Did these guys take a sample and send it in? I doubt it, because IF the oil was no good any longer, the fault lies with the owner who neglected it. Afterall, there are idiots out there that think you can run the stuff forever, and for that matter that applies to other synthetics aswell. Hell, I knew a guy that never changed the oil in a van because it burned oil. He just kept putting more in. He literally thought it was self changing! Really nice guy though, God rest his soul. He went to early.

The biggest problem that people need to overcome is the brainwashing that oil companies have done to you over the years in getting you to believe that you must change the oil every 3 months or 3K miles. Like I stated, anyone who uses OA knows that oil lasts longer than that. Truth be told, its actually the additives that go first. The oil itself is technically ok most of the time. So if that is the case, which it is, why are more and more companies coming out with longer life oils? Mobil with a 15K oil? My goodness what is the oil world coming to? And what about GM and its oil life monitoring system? GM itself is claiming that the typical oil change interval is around 8K when the system is used. Bottom line is educate yourself about oil, how it works, what it does, and how it is used up. You'll be better for it.

 

When I pick up parts at my dealer I always check in with the diesel technician to see how things are, we BS a little about what is going on. He asked me what I knew on AMSOIL....since I don't use the product I asked a few guys here and saw this thread.

Once the oil was changed the customer was happy, and then proceeded back to AMSOIL on the next change. Problem returned again on both trucks. Not looking to stir trouble, just raw information from users on their 6.0L engine. So this wouldn't include your lawn mower or grand fathers car.....

The problem was rough idle from air in the oil causing the injectors to mis-fire. Fresh AMSOIL or Regular Ford oil the trucks ran fine.

 

That makes sense then. If he was running it longer and then having problems, I could see it happening. I will certainly find out for myself as I intend on running it to 10K for sure, maybe longer depending on OA. I don't know if there is much info out there yet on performance issues relating to longer drain intervals and HEUI systems. At least I haven't seen it.

 

Even though there are hints around the edges, you guys are doing fairly well so far with this thread. Let's stay on course and keep it that way.

Thanks.

 

Hey KW, I am pretty happy right now, I don't think even Bob can bring me down right now. Our legislature just passed concealed carry and the gov says he will sign it! WOOO-HOOOO

 

You'll like it then. It does come in with it's own issues though. I resolved some time ago that when it comes to my family / property...I would have no conscious when protecting it. Especially here in Texas. A cold blooded protector.... ...so to speak.

But, that is for another discussion better suited in the "Non-Automotive" or "Club FTE" Forums.

Anyway, thanks again guys for keeping this one pretty much on the civil side.