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It is time for me to issue my obligatory warning regarding this subject matter. I will have zero tolerence for any personal attacks whether real or implied.
I can think of little to no new information regarding this product that cannot be answered by reading the threads that I linked.
Gezzzzzzzzz and I thought this thread was going to make it more than a day. What was I thinking . Can't anybody stay on topic .<TABLE class=tborder cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=4 width="100%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR title="Post 3555380" vAlign=top><TD class=alt1 align=middle width=125>wyoguy</TD><TD class=alt2>My personal experience............wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.
I have no problem with syn oils, use them in everything I have with a motor.
Just the product in mention.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Thats all the orignal post asked and see how easy it is to disagree to something. . No personal attacks there.
I am running it right now in my 06 6.0. I fully expect to run it to at least 10K. My previous F150 with a 5.4 ran it as well. I put it in at 19K and ran it till I traded the truck in at 50k plus. Regular OA's came back clean until the last one where the oil had gone from 5W30 to a 5W40. Not a big deal. Also the TBN was down to around 3-4. I changed it out before trading it in. In my opinion, it worked great. I got better mileage, and considering that I was disappointed when I bought it, with the mileage, I was happy.
BTW, I saved a lot of money on oil changes along the way!!! People who can't read, have shallow minds, read into things, have an agenda, or just don't like the free enterprise capitalism (read MLM) that we have in the USA are always going to bash it. Just remember, most of them have never used it and don't really know what they think they are talking about. Just the same old same old.
It is time for me to issue my obligatory warning regarding this subject matter. I will have zero tolerence for any personal attacks whether real or implied.
I can think of little to no new information regarding this product that cannot be answered by reading the threads that I linked.
Put down the guns, man. We'll keep it civil.
I can personally post all kinds of "new info" that would be very helpful, but alas, I don't have the time to type it all out. Perhaps one day.
It still boils down to one thing. If people don't like the product, whatever it is, then leave the thread and read somewhere else. Unfortunetly, those that hate Amsoil, for whatever reason, can't help themselves. Perhaps some policing would be inorder. Those with no constuctive points to make should not be saying anything, after all, just like KW says, it has all been said.
Bob, you may be older then me, but I bet I have touched more Amsoil then you have seen. I don't buy or use Amsoil because of is price. That being said, the moleculer compound of Amsoil causes it to bind tighter then normal oil, therfore it has a longer lifespan. On a scientific side, it should hold up to 20,000 miles before oil changes. BUT, the oil make-up is only half of the equation. The particles (iron, silicon, aluminum,etc.) that build up in the oil is what causes the break downs. If you want to use Amsoil, I would recommend oil filter changes at about 2000 miles after the initial 5000 up until the next oil change. My former company uses Amsoil in their marine Diesel engines and have had no problems for up to 15 years!!!! That is running them everyday. If you want personal experience instead of opinion, I have seen two 16V71 Detroit's run EVERYDAY since 1994 using Amsoil and never have a problem. We just rebuilt them last year. No opinions here.
I would say Bob answered my question. The technician I talk to is having big problems with these two guys using AMSOIL and I was wondering where they get this idea to run it high miles. These customers return complaining.
I'm not saying anything is wrong with the oil, just that it isn't going to work over 10 thousand miles.
Once again, you guys have all rang in with your own comments. What I now walk away with is this, if this product ever gets a API certification then and only then should a wise consumer use this product. I do agree and support the warranty concerns. Because of the cost of these Great Trucks the FoMoCo my
and most likely use this to void a warranty should a engine problem develope.
Thanks again, to all my POWER STROKE BUDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Once again, you guys have all rang in with your own comments. What I now walk away with is this, if this product ever gets a API certification then and only then should a wise consumer use this product. I do agree and support the warranty concerns. Because of the cost of these Great Trucks the FoMoCo my
and most likely use this to void a warranty should a engine problem develope.
Thanks again, to all my POWER STROKE BUDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Amsoil does have an oil that is API certified CI-4, and it's PCO 15W-40, a synthetic blend. But, with great diesel oils like Delo, and Rotella, you have to
ask yourself is PCO worth the extremely inflated price, when it's just putting money in a lot of people's pocket due to the pyramid marketing structure!
Last edited by Bob Ayers; Mar 31, 2006 at 06:01 AM.
[QUOTE=drtry10]the moleculer compound of Amsoil causes it to bind tighter then normal oil, therfore it has a longer lifespan. QUOTE]
There is nothing special about there oil even at a "moleculer" level. The basestock is supplied by BP and the additives come from Lubrizol. Amsoil is just a overpriced blender of oil like Castrol.
Have you ever figured how much money you would have saved if you used another brand of oil for 15 years?
Well, considering I had no repair costs on any of the engines and ran at oil change intervals ranging from 15,000 to 25,000 miles, my calculations indicate I saved money over using the old technology of fossil fuels, not to mention the extra work of changing it every 3,000 miles.
Again, you can't dispute experience. You can throw out all of the opinions and numbers you want to, but you can't disprove the fact that it is tried, tested, and true. My moms 1994 Camaro is at 140,000 miles with Amsoil run in it since new, 20,000 mile oil change intervals, and guess what, no problems. Argue with that....
Well, considering I had no repair costs on any of the engines and ran at oil change intervals ranging from 15,000 to 25,000 miles, my calculations indicate I saved money over using the old technology of fossil fuels, not to mention the extra work of changing it every 3,000 miles.
Again, you can't dispute experience. You can throw out all of the opinions and numbers you want to, but you can't disprove the fact that it is tried, tested, and true. My moms 1994 Camaro is at 140,000 miles with Amsoil run in it since new, 20,000 mile oil change intervals, and guess what, no problems. Argue with that....
I am glad that it has worked out for you, and you haven't had any problems!!
The people that aren't as fortunate, are the ones that have had engine problems while under warranty. I'm sure that this is why Amsoil is now recommending their API certified oil products for warranty reasons.
Is anyone running Amsoil in there 6.0, and are you happy with it. Please Share your findings. Thanks in advance.
I run Delvac 1300 15w-40 in mine because I change the oil/filter every 2500 to 3000 miles. My truck just passed 16K and when I find Delvac 1 or the new Mobil 1 Diesel synthetic for a decent price, I may switch. My last oil sample from Blackstone at 3K showed everything was pretty good with the exception of fuel dilution being close to their limit, though well below Ford's, and shearing would have become a possible issue near 5K.
Amsoil has a great MLM setup but I just feel I can get equal or better quality from a major brand oil right off the shelf for less money.
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