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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 08:59 AM
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Question flame throwers?

I am in the proses of putting my own flame throwers on my truck. I have already wired in a switch that runs of the negitive wire of my coil. I spliced it in with my tach wire. I ran a wire all the way to the tailgate to hook up to the coils. I riged a coil to it to see if it worked and when I hit the switch my motor started missing and the coil was sparking which is what I wanted. I am wandering if anybody else has ever tried this and if they had any luck. I bought some nuts to weld in to the exhaust and some long reach spark plugs to get closer to the center of the pipe. It already puffs out a little unburned fuel when you rack the pipes and back off or when you really get down on it and shift. I am hopping that I can make this fuel burn. I would love any input on what I am about to attemp. I don't have a muffler so I don't think I will have a problem with things exploding and I don't have any cats to burn up.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 09:24 AM
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what is the purpose of doing this?
 
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 09:29 AM
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I am doing it because it would be cool to shot flames out the pipes and I am learning how to make a coil work and how to wire it all up. Haven't you ever seen hotrod trucks or cars with flamethrower exhaust.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 10:05 AM
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yeah, i saw them pulled over in burbank, ca. receiving tickets for having flames coming out of the 50's hot rods they were driving.

so yeah, i think that would look real cool.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 11:36 AM
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I am just trying

Hey Quicklook easy that sounded a little hostile back there. I am just tring it to see if I can make it work. I alreaddy plan to put bolts back where the sparl plugs go. I just want some input on how to make it work. You sound like a cop quicklook. I am sorry if you don't like it. I think that I will wind up taking it off because of my dad. I am just tring something diffrent.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 11:41 AM
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now who is sounding hostile?

i am not a law officer.

i am just trying to tell you to not waste your time and maybe getting a fine down the road.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 05:35 PM
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Waste?
Ive got one on my truck Its on a pipe coming from the bed pointing up
It makes loads of bright red fire when coasting and when returning to idle from a hard rev
The best way to wire it is to make a buzz box from a SPDT relay and use a condenser
I will find the diagram soon


P.S. this is sorta illegal so that makes it fun right there However fire is hot so use carefully and away from MR quicklook2
 
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 07:11 PM
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Why did you splice it into the tach wire??

Here's what I would have done:

Acquired a cheapo ignition coil off something else, hooked that up to the + and - lines of the battery, along with a button switch spliced inline with the + wire. I would then run the line off the cheapo ignition coil using an old spark plug wire spliced into a bit of like 4ga wire to wherever the exhaust exits, or simply stuck the coil somewhere in the back. And so, when you press the button the spark fires.

Another thing is that you've got to be running pretty rich to get it to belch fire.

I've contemplated doing this just for laughs, but realistically I don't think there's enough unburned fuel coming through my exhaust (or out of the exhaust of most cars) for it to work.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by the_fordvan
Why did you splice it into the tach wire??

Here's what I would have done:

Acquired a cheapo ignition coil off something else, hooked that up to the + and - lines of the battery, along with a button switch spliced inline with the + wire. I would then run the line off the cheapo ignition coil using an old spark plug wire spliced into a bit of like 4ga wire to wherever the exhaust exits, or simply stuck the coil somewhere in the back. And so, when you press the button the spark fires.

Another thing is that you've got to be running pretty rich to get it to belch fire.

I've contemplated doing this just for laughs, but realistically I don't think there's enough unburned fuel coming through my exhaust (or out of the exhaust of most cars) for it to work.

That doesn't work you need to cycle the coil very quickly
still looking for that diagram
 
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 07:48 PM
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Found it
The diagram is now in my gallery, do it just as it shows, it will work.
I ground the porcelin off of a spark plug, screwed it into the tailpipe on one side and a screw on the other. the screw adjusts how large the spark is, This places the spark in the center of the pipe. running rich will help, and it works best without cats.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2006 | 09:01 PM
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The idea is to cut out the spark to the motor when there is spark in the tailpipe. That way the motor is pumping out Air and fuel mixture down the tail pipe, which ignites readily.

You might try drilling a couple holes in the tailpipe before the spark plug, to let more air into the mixture. You could put some sort of metering screw in there. Might be able to adjust your flame color and length that way.

Be careful. Don't do anything stupid.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 12:32 AM
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ebay,ebay,ebay,get a kit from them they're cheap and they works good but you cant have a cat on it.the kit works by shutting of the engines coil and then raw fuel and air is pumped through the exhaust to the coils on your tail pipes.youll get about a foot long flame but you cant keep them on to long or the engine dies.check out my gallery i have a pic of the flames on my truck.but soon i will be putting diesel stacks on the truck with propane injection to get a bigger flame.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 02:27 AM
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after reading about it, I wouldn't do this. I feel like it'd gum up my sparkplugs or something.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 05:04 AM
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Killing the engine and dumping fuel makes great fire but will gas foul the oil and plugs
 
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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 08:34 AM
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I new that the coil had to have a pulse signal is why I used the tack wire. I wired it up yesterday and it works!!! I ran a wire from my tack to a switch in the dash back to the tailgate to the positive wire on the first coil. Then I toke the negitive and spliced it in to the positive on the other coil for the other pipe. The ground for it gets grounded. Then you just put some plugs in your pipes. I didn't get any flames until the motor was warmed up real good. It works best when you take off hard and back off. It works ok by racking the pipes hard. You can hear it light. You hear a big woomp and then you look in the rear view mirrors and there are flames. It looks best at night. I only had 10 bucks in. That was for nuts to weld in the exhaust and very long spark plugs to reach farther in to the pipe, the rest I had laying around the shop.
 
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