swapping in a powerstroke
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just found a great deal on a 95 1 ton van with a powerstroke. 60K, everything works, and they only want $3000 for the entire vehicle. what a deal!!!
my question is, how impossible would it be to swap the powerstroke into my 79 f150 4X4? currently have 460, c6, and np205 and stock axles (9inch and dana 44). don't know what kind of tranny the van has. i assume that i will probably have to use the tranny in the van and hopefully adapt it to a x-fer case somehow.
anyone ever performed this on an old ford?
i would probably consider swapping in the 1 ton rear axle depending on the gear ratio.
thanks for the info
my question is, how impossible would it be to swap the powerstroke into my 79 f150 4X4? currently have 460, c6, and np205 and stock axles (9inch and dana 44). don't know what kind of tranny the van has. i assume that i will probably have to use the tranny in the van and hopefully adapt it to a x-fer case somehow.
anyone ever performed this on an old ford?
i would probably consider swapping in the 1 ton rear axle depending on the gear ratio.
thanks for the info
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I'm not positive of this but i belive the Diesel takes a big block bellhousing.
the only problem is that its a pretty torquey engine for 1/2 ton components. if your doing offroading with it the 44 might have its work cut out.
and your tranny may need some refreshening depending on its status... the 9 inch would probably hold.
remember thats over 500ft/lbs going into your driveline
where as now you are runnin somewhere between 350-400 with the 460 if its stock.
the only problem is that its a pretty torquey engine for 1/2 ton components. if your doing offroading with it the 44 might have its work cut out.
and your tranny may need some refreshening depending on its status... the 9 inch would probably hold.
remember thats over 500ft/lbs going into your driveline
where as now you are runnin somewhere between 350-400 with the 460 if its stock.
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Byron, I'll agree the powerstroke is too much engine for the 1/2 ton. I don't think that the E rear will fit the F either.
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I second the opinion on the weight. Also the parts prices are bad news with the powerstroke. If you are serious about a diesel powered rig, try a turbocharged Perkins 6 cylinder. Lighter and have good power and economy. If I were to use the Ford diesel, I would use a non-powerstroke model with a Gale Banks turbo retrofit. The Perkins would work in a F 100. The others need the 3/4 ton running gear.
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It will be a tough row to hoe, but anything is possible. Just consider the cost and time involved up front, and dedicate yourself to the completion of the project. If not, you will end up with a pile of worthless pieces, and injured spirits.
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Perkins diesels are used in Massy-Ferguson tractors for one item I can name off hand. You can buy one from some of the advertisers in the Rock and Dirt contractors publication -- kind of a giant ad sheet for construction equipment and parts. You can get 4 and 6 cylinder Perkins in normal aspirated and turbo models. I think the 6 is a direct injection engine about 354 cubic inches and definately weighs less that the International V-8 diesel. Fits in the engine compartment easier. I have not seen one hooked to an automatic transmission, not to say it isn't done. Another thought would be the Izusu diesels like you see in the little cab-over delivery trucks. About 1978, Dodge offered a Mitsubsi (spelling?) 6 diesel in their pickups but it was normally aspirated and somewhat underpowered.
Someone else may have better info than I do, Hope this was some help. Tom C.
Someone else may have better info than I do, Hope this was some help. Tom C.
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Hi, the diesel has a different bolt pattern than the 460 so you have to use the trans out of the van and try to adapt the transfer case you will need heavier springs in the front but unless you are going to really beat on it the dana 44 should hold up with no trouble you will have to use the computer from the van, the radiator, the two battery system just basically take everything from the van and bolt it into your truck it is a better swap than the perkins and it fits with no problems you might want to insulte the inner fenders and underside of the hood along with the firewall just to keep the noise down ford does I have a 86 f250 with a 6.9 four wheel drive and nothing will stop that truck in low range it doesn't have a lot of horsepower but the torque is outrageous.
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One thing to consider is the engines rpm. It will need to run in the 3000 rpm range to make hiway speed. There was an industrial Ford engine dealer in Durham that offered a aftermarket Ford diesel engine that would bolt up in your truck. They had one installed in a early 80s E250. I drove the van and compaired it to having 35hp motor on the back of a 25ft boat. 67 mph was the top speed that it would reach. Having a turbo and maybe a different rear gearing would help.
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Hi, the powerstroke with the trans out of the van should take care of any problem with speed you might have with a tractor engine my f250 will do somewhere around 100 with 3.73 gears and then it runs up on the governor at 3800 rpm's and I have a c6 (NO OVERDRIVE) so depending on what trans the van has you should be able to get at least that speed. John
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