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Hey all. Well here's the deal. I've finally got my performer intake. What brand/CFM carb would anyone recommend? I'm want to put a little bigger cam in it and will be putting my slightly worked heads on it later this year. Would 600 cfm be enough? Should I go with the Edelbrock carb or the Holley? I hear the Ed is basically a stock replacement while the Holleys can be a pain to dial in. I don't race so I wouldn't think I'd need any more than a 600 cfm. Also any suggestions on a cam kit? I'm looking for opinions on brand and lift. How much lift is possible with the non-adjustable rockers? Would the pushrods have to be changed with any change in cams? -TIA- Bill
'70 F-250 Camper Special 360/C-6 3.73 8 mpg uphill or down
'70 F-250 Camper Special 360/C-6 3.73 8 mpg uphill or down
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600 CFM is good enough. The Edelbrock carb is much easier to deal with than a Holley. Mine was good basically out of the box. All I had to change was the idle speed. Since then I've messed with the mixture but I wouldn't have had to. I put a Crane 266 cam in mine. I believe its got around .510 lift so you will need valve springs to match, which isn't a bad idea anyway. The 266 grind isn't so much as to make it undriveable, but you can tell it isn't stock. Any more and you might be getting idle/vacuum problems. My vacuum sits around 15-17 at idle. Hope this helps
Dave,
79 F-150 4x4, 390 w/C6, Edelbrock carb, 33X12.50 never will be finished.
Dave,
79 F-150 4x4, 390 w/C6, Edelbrock carb, 33X12.50 never will be finished.
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Dave, thanks for the info. Did you have to change pushrods? Also, I have the cable for a manual choke. Should I go manual or electric. I am the pits when it comes to wiring and I don't really want to have to hook up a choke. But I hear the 1406(elec.) is better on gas than the 1405(man.) Whatcha think? TIA- Bill
'70 F-250 Camper Special 360/C-6 3.73 8 mpg uphill or down
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Bill you just need to run a switched hot wire to the choke. I have a Edlebrock 1406 on my truck and it does a good job.
John
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Hey John, do you prefer an electric choke or did you get the 1406 for the mileage? Any cons against the manual choke? Bill
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I used the stock pushrods. The choke just needs a wire that is hot when the truck is running. There is a wire dropping out of the harness on the firewall right behind the engine that does this. I can't think of the color right now, but I want to say its maybe a red w/ stripe or black w/stripe. Also, the Edelbrock will need the Ford auto tranny kickdown linkage if you have an auto.
Dave,
79 F-150 4x4, 390 w/C6, Edelbrock carb, 33X12.50 never will be finished.
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79 F-150 4x4, 390 w/C6, Edelbrock carb, 33X12.50 never will be finished.
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I got the 1406 because it has the electric choke. I suffer with CRS, and I can't seem to remember to push the choke off.
John
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66 F100s
In the still cool hours of the night,
you can hear chevys rusting away.
John
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Personally I prefer old, non-computer, manual choke engines. I like to know what my truck is doing, and I like to be the one telling it do to what it is doing.
I like to be in control
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I run a 1405 that was converted to electric choke on my 360 and it still runs on the lean side (by reading the plugs which I haven't done yet after going to richer power circuit metering rods), especially when I switched to the edelbrock performer RPM intake, I had a offenhauser 360 degree equaflow intake and it had better low RPM torque but very uneven fuel distribution, but the RPM seems to pull harder on the top end. The Edelbrock seems to get just slightly better gas milage than the 700CFM double pumper I used to have, and is definitely a lot quieter for highway driving. Disadvantage is my K&N doesn't fit the edelbrock without a half inch spacer since it's a drop base air cleaner. and it did fit the holley. But when I was picking my carb a 700CFM carb is just right for a 360 inch engine if you plan on racing it at all. But after all my rambling, pick a 600-625cfm Edelbrock the electric choke is easy enough to hook up. and get a few metering rods and jets (the much more extensive than holley tuning book will show you what to pick) and a secondary sping pack to tune it some.
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I've got a Performer RPM manifold, 600 CFM Edelbrock 1405 and a ~1/2" lift dual pattern cam. 99% of the time I don't need any choke so the cost savings was a no-brainer. If you're not going to race, I'd say stick with around 600 CFM and not much more than 1/2" lift. My 2¢.
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[font color=red size=3]I have a stock 390 with 4spd and dual exhaust. I have a stock 4v intake with a 600 cfm Edelbrock. I've ran Holleys in the past, and since I got this Edelbrock, I wished I would have junked the Holleys long before. The E'brock is a much more 'driver-friendly' carb, less messing with it. All I've had to do to mine, is adjust the idle and the idle-mix screws.
As far as the choke goes, I wish mine had an electric choke. Just 1 wire - easy - any body can do that. If it's adjusted right, you don't even have to think about it. A manual choke is just one more thing to mess with.
Just a thought.
Marty[/font]
As far as the choke goes, I wish mine had an electric choke. Just 1 wire - easy - any body can do that. If it's adjusted right, you don't even have to think about it. A manual choke is just one more thing to mess with.
Just a thought.
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[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 30-Jan-01 AT 03:23 PM (EST)[/font][p]Thanks for all the opinions. I think I'm gonna go with the manual choke just because it's a little cheaper (I won't have to buy the kickdown assembly). I had a manual choke on my '65 and I didn't mind it.
As far as cams go, somebody suggested a Crane 266. I was thinking about buying the Edelbrock power package (manifold, carb,& cam kit.) But the Ed cam is around $120 whereas the Cranes are around $95. Which is better and what duration is best for a daily driver? I would like something with a noticeable idle, but not too rough. I'm not overly concerned with price, but I don't want to give it away. Any personal experiences? Bill
'70 F-250 Camper Special 360/C-6 3.73 8 mpg uphill or down
As far as cams go, somebody suggested a Crane 266. I was thinking about buying the Edelbrock power package (manifold, carb,& cam kit.) But the Ed cam is around $120 whereas the Cranes are around $95. Which is better and what duration is best for a daily driver? I would like something with a noticeable idle, but not too rough. I'm not overly concerned with price, but I don't want to give it away. Any personal experiences? Bill
'70 F-250 Camper Special 360/C-6 3.73 8 mpg uphill or down
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Bill, I don't know the specs on the Crane cam, but do know that the Edelbrock is not a whole lot "meatier" than stock...you probably wouldn't even notice a difference at idle, but should feel a little performance improvement. I hear the Comp Cams 268H is a good cam and a favorite of many fellow FTE posters. However, it is a single pattern cam whereas the Edelbrock is a dual pattern. I personally think the dual pattern is a better choice given the limitation of the relatively small exhaust valve size on FE's. Alternatively you could have larger exhaust valves installed in your heads.
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The 266 is hardly noticeable at idle except when its really cold and idling slow, then it's a definite "lope" until everything gets smoothed out.
Dave,
79 F-150 4x4, 390 w/C6, Edelbrock carb, 33X12.50 never will be finished.
Dave,
79 F-150 4x4, 390 w/C6, Edelbrock carb, 33X12.50 never will be finished.
Bill