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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 08:56 PM
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Ok the IP is located on the front of the engine block...its easy to identify do to all the lines going from it to the injectors.
Ok and the lift pump is in the tank? sorry for all the questions
 
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 08:58 PM
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ok the fuel...sitting outside might have gotten water in it due to who knows what, have you checked your water seperator?? I dont think that would be too big of an issue but it might. check that pump or drain your tank and lines and go to a gas station and put a few bucks in.....also run diesel kleen if u do get it fixed, this helped me a lot.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 09:03 PM
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the lift pump is on the engine, passenger side at the frount below the alt, follow the steal fuel from the fuel filter bracket stright down cant miss it
 
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by dieself250
the lift pump is on the engine, passenger side at the frount below the alt, follow the steal fuel from the fuel filter bracket stright down cant miss it
Ok, i thought they had a pump in the tank for some reason, so is the lift pump electric or mechanical?
 
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 09:21 PM
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mechanical driven off the cam
 
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 04:52 PM
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Have you tested the mechanical pump to see if it is pumping fuel?

Yes you can use an electric pump.
If you do this you have to bypass the mechanical lift pump.
I have put a lot of miles on the stock lift pump without a problem, 300,000 miles easy.

Since you said Km I asume you are in Canada?
If you don't mind me asking who did the rebuild on your engine?
 
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 05:17 PM
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ahh if its canada, its probably really cold up there right now huh? My truck recently had a starting problem and i live in texas so its a lot warmer here then it is up there, my problem was it got cold here for a day or two when i say cold i mean like 32 so its prolly not that big of deal to some people but down here it is. I was sick for a day so i didnt drive it and it set out there in the cold, when i went to start it, it started after a few cranks(normal for the cold weather) But the next day when i tried to start it after it had warmed up outside it wouldnt start at all. I came home from school the day it didnt start and i tried again knowing as the day got warmer it might start up, this wasnt the case. I plugged the truck in and after 2 hours it finally turned over. Even after it got to 80 degrees i still had to plug it in so i tested my glow plugs and they were all bad. I changed them two days ago and everything works just fine now, so what i am saying is that may be your problem. Even if youve tested them, it might be the relay or the switch or sumthing ealse causing them to not work properly so you might want to check that. I was also thinking, but i highly doubt it, you said earlier you had the engine rebuilt. Have you looked inside the valve covers?? If you dnt know who rebuilt the engine, it could have been some idiot that put the wrong parts in thatmight not let your valves to work properly or who know what, i highly doubt that that could be a problem seeing how you have 8 for air and 8 for exhaust but you never ever know. You could easily have something lodged in your cylinder or your crankshaft or sumthing like that so if you dont find nething wrong with the fuel system id suggest letting a profesional look at it.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Sponaugle
Have you tested the mechanical pump to see if it is pumping fuel?

Yes you can use an electric pump.
If you do this you have to bypass the mechanical lift pump.
I have put a lot of miles on the stock lift pump without a problem, 300,000 miles easy.

Since you said Km I asume you are in Canada?
If you don't mind me asking who did the rebuild on your engine?
No, i havent tried anything with it, i don't have any experience with these motors at all so i would like to know what and where to start with.

Yes i am in Canada and im not sure who did the rebuild on the motor, it was done by the last owner
 
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by bassproguy07
ahh if its canada, its probably really cold up there right now huh? My truck recently had a starting problem and i live in texas so its a lot warmer here then it is up there, my problem was it got cold here for a day or two when i say cold i mean like 32 so its prolly not that big of deal to some people but down here it is. I was sick for a day so i didnt drive it and it set out there in the cold, when i went to start it, it started after a few cranks(normal for the cold weather) But the next day when i tried to start it after it had warmed up outside it wouldnt start at all. I came home from school the day it didnt start and i tried again knowing as the day got warmer it might start up, this wasnt the case. I plugged the truck in and after 2 hours it finally turned over. Even after it got to 80 degrees i still had to plug it in so i tested my glow plugs and they were all bad. I changed them two days ago and everything works just fine now, so what i am saying is that may be your problem. Even if youve tested them, it might be the relay or the switch or sumthing ealse causing them to not work properly so you might want to check that. I was also thinking, but i highly doubt it, you said earlier you had the engine rebuilt. Have you looked inside the valve covers?? If you dnt know who rebuilt the engine, it could have been some idiot that put the wrong parts in thatmight not let your valves to work properly or who know what, i highly doubt that that could be a problem seeing how you have 8 for air and 8 for exhaust but you never ever know. You could easily have something lodged in your cylinder or your crankshaft or sumthing like that so if you dont find nething wrong with the fuel system id suggest letting a profesional look at it.
Yes it has been cold, but we had the truck in a heated shop for the whole weekend and it still would not start, im not sure who did the motor but it has gone almost 100,000Kms since without any problems
 
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 06:01 PM
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hmm ok.....well check that pump and your glow plugs, like i said it was 85 degrees here and it still had to be plugged in
 
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 06:40 PM
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hmm ok.....well check that pump and your glow plugs, like i said it was 85 degrees here and it still had to be plugged in
Ok, we'll do. Thanks for the help guys, i'll keep you posted
 
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 09:36 PM
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85 and it still needed plugged in?? That aint right, not good, not an expert but never even plug mine in when its above 60, 93 f350, no plug at all some time when i forget and thats at freezing, generally never plug in for more than 2hrs any time.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 10:17 PM
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ok....it had been cold the days before, and the truck hadnt warmed up so it was still cold even at 85, now about your more then two hours thing in the manual, it says plug it in for a minimum of 2 to 3 hours, that heater dnt just work all the time
 
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Old Mar 4, 2006 | 09:59 PM
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The heater is just supposed to make cold starts easier, what about when you do not have power for the block heater? Your truck should start way down to a sustained 30 degrees with out help, as for the manual plug in time i was just going by testing as to what really helped cold starts and where the minimum time was, did not look in a manual looks like the time came out pretty close.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 02:22 AM
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ok i dont know if youve read my previous posts on here but EVERY glow blug was out, when it was 85 degrees i could start it but it took cranking it for about 10 second waitin for a minute, and cranking again. but the first morning that wasnt cold, about 60 it wouldnt start at all because it was still cold from the days before. I plugged it in to warm the engine up, wich it does do because you can touch the engine and feel the heat. and it started up no problem. You dont have to tell me what the heater is supposed to do, and that the truck should start even at 34 degress, because it didnt and wouldnt. I told you what i had to do to get mine to start and thats what worked untill i could get around to changin the glow plugs, after taking them out i tested them again and none of them worked, with the new ones it starts right up. no prooblem
 
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