Offroad Suspension Idea
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Offroad Suspension Idea
First does anyone have front spring mounts like the ones on the cover of April '06 Petersons? Also on pg 102 in that mag? If so did ya do a write up about it?
And the other idea(maybe been done already?) Would it work if I mounted the front springs on my 78 F-250 like the rear and do the shackle flip? I have a couple of trucks in my backyard to get the extra spring mounts and shackles from. Since im mounting rocks I wont have to move spring pads or anything.
It currently has a 6" Skyjacker suspension lift on it and if ya remember from a couple of weeks ago I was asking lift Qs to clear rockwells and ag tires.
Yeah Im still looking for ideas cause I thought about what a couple of you guys said about banana springs and tall spring perches. Oh Yeah how do ya put pics in posts? Thanks Dave
And the other idea(maybe been done already?) Would it work if I mounted the front springs on my 78 F-250 like the rear and do the shackle flip? I have a couple of trucks in my backyard to get the extra spring mounts and shackles from. Since im mounting rocks I wont have to move spring pads or anything.
It currently has a 6" Skyjacker suspension lift on it and if ya remember from a couple of weeks ago I was asking lift Qs to clear rockwells and ag tires.
Yeah Im still looking for ideas cause I thought about what a couple of you guys said about banana springs and tall spring perches. Oh Yeah how do ya put pics in posts? Thanks Dave
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Originally Posted by wvmudder
First does anyone have front spring mounts like the ones on the cover of April '06 Petersons? Also on pg 102 in that mag? If so did ya do a write up about it?
And the other idea(maybe been done already?) Would it work if I mounted the front springs on my 78 F-250 like the rear and do the shackle flip? I have a couple of trucks in my backyard to get the extra spring mounts and shackles from. Since im mounting rocks I wont have to move spring pads or anything.
It currently has a 6" Skyjacker suspension lift on it and if ya remember from a couple of weeks ago I was asking lift Qs to clear rockwells and ag tires.
Yeah Im still looking for ideas cause I thought about what a couple of you guys said about banana springs and tall spring perches. Oh Yeah how do ya put pics in posts? Thanks Dave
And the other idea(maybe been done already?) Would it work if I mounted the front springs on my 78 F-250 like the rear and do the shackle flip? I have a couple of trucks in my backyard to get the extra spring mounts and shackles from. Since im mounting rocks I wont have to move spring pads or anything.
It currently has a 6" Skyjacker suspension lift on it and if ya remember from a couple of weeks ago I was asking lift Qs to clear rockwells and ag tires.
Yeah Im still looking for ideas cause I thought about what a couple of you guys said about banana springs and tall spring perches. Oh Yeah how do ya put pics in posts? Thanks Dave
your 78 should already have the front springs with the shackle in the rear. if not then yes you can... in fact with a torch and welder you can do just about anything. i did it on my 85 F250
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No i dont have pics of the mag but I was wondering about mounting the springs on the outside of the frame rails with rear spring hangers and shackles, but I just thought it might interfere with the tires during sharp turns, its been a long day at work, Dave
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Oh ok. Now we see what you mean. Well if you put some rockies under there then the increased axle width might (and probably would) be enough to clear your tires. On the stock axles, no matter what size banana leaves you use, you will rub. Not only that, but there really isnt much room to go outwards at all on a stock axle. You would have to get some new tubes and axle shafts for that cwaziness.
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Well like an idiot I just looked at Pros & Ivans galleries and if the rear components wont work their dropped mounts are what im gonna have to do. Does anyone have a link to the posts where they describe those setups? Or what keywords would I search for? Thanks Dave
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Originally Posted by wvmudder
Well like an idiot I just looked at Pros & Ivans galleries
Ivan basically copied my design and I basically copied Bob Chandler's design. So, if you study the suspension design of the original Bigfoots its all there....
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No, lol, I meant that I was the idiot for just now looking at your galleries, Ivan tried to help me out a couple weeks ago when I asked about using those 10" Superduty lift springs to clear rockwells and he recomended using setups like you guys used, but like an idiot I didnt look until yesterday after asking the first post to this thread.
So Pro, thanks for the reply, is there anything about your setup that you would change or dont like? I'll check out the bigfoot site, is there another place that talks about the suspension he used? Thanks again, Dave.
So Pro, thanks for the reply, is there anything about your setup that you would change or dont like? I'll check out the bigfoot site, is there another place that talks about the suspension he used? Thanks again, Dave.
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I would say my setup is pretty optimal for a big leaf-sprung vehicle. It does great off-road while maintaining road manners so I can terrorize yuppies at will. Whether or not this type of suspension is right for you though depends on your application. If you are building your rockwelled rig for primarily off-road use I wouldn't go my route, but instead build a four link suspension with coil overs. Thats what I am planning for my next build. It simply can't be beat for off-road duty which is why monster trucks evolved to that style of suspension from what I am running. The square deuce tubes lend themselves nicely to this as well.
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I would say my setup is pretty optimal for a big leaf-sprung vehicle. It does great off-road while maintaining road manners so I can terrorize yuppies at will. Whether or not this type of suspension is right for you though depends on your application. If you are building your rockwelled rig for primarily off-road use I wouldn't go my route, but instead build a four link suspension with coil overs. Thats what I am planning for my next build. It simply can't be beat for off-road duty which is why monster trucks evolved to that style of suspension from what I am running. The square deuce tubes lend themselves nicely to this as well. As far as websites go, Pirate probably has the best amount of suspension information on the web.
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Originally Posted by wvmudder
Does anyone have a link to the posts where they describe those setups? Or what keywords would I search for? Thanks Dave
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There's a recent thread regarding the mods to the front and someone else's pics that will give you a general idea though I wouldn't copy it exactly. I also lay out the reasons that I pulled all the pics and specs I used to have on how to do it. Check up here and then post pack to this thread if you have specific questions: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...d.php?t=460407
BigFoot's site won't really get into detail on the suspension but you can get a pretty good idea by looking at pictures. There's nothing about my suspension that I'd really like to change. It flexes well, is very stable and rides smooth. When I get around to building a rear-steer axle I'll either inboard my rear springs or build a linked rear suspension just so I can turn but that's about it.
BigFoot's site won't really get into detail on the suspension but you can get a pretty good idea by looking at pictures. There's nothing about my suspension that I'd really like to change. It flexes well, is very stable and rides smooth. When I get around to building a rear-steer axle I'll either inboard my rear springs or build a linked rear suspension just so I can turn but that's about it.
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I think rear steer would be cool on any rig but yeah, especially handy on mine. 155" wheel base takes a lot of room to turn around. I was going to build it this spring but that plan went out the window when my engine went TU. The axle would have cost me about $3000 to build and then another $1500 for the steering system.
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Originally Posted by ivanribic
155" wheel base takes a lot of room to turn around.
least thats how i did it!-cutts-