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Old Feb 26, 2006 | 06:41 PM
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I am in the process of tuning up my 02 v10 Larait Crew. I have done searches and was unable to find any info for my vehicle. The truck has 61k on it. This is what I plan on doing:

1. Oil change with mobil 1 and k&n oil filter
2. Transmission change with mobil 1 tranny fluid. (do I just drain the fluid and add new fluid? Also, the manual states that i need 16 qts....is this right?)

I plan on having someone else do the following:

1. flush coolant system
2. install new plugs, muffler and Cat (magnaflow), shocks and steering damper (rancho)
3. change differential fluid, brake, power steering fluid

Am I missing anything? Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated...
 
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Old Feb 26, 2006 | 09:14 PM
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yes! can the k&n oil filter and use a ford/motorcraft fl820s , i don't care what the companys ads all say stock filters are the best filters.
there should be a drain plug in the converter check it out and if it has let it drain.
exhaust unless it's bad don't touch it. the stock converter is the best one, the other will not increase the hp to the ground. muffler wise i have played with many on mine only 3 have sounded good to my ears. the banks on monsta's ex. a flowmaster 70 and the stock muffler.
steering damper? rancho is over rated in my mind. and when i did use one it was no better then the stock one. the fluids all of them as you state it's time for that.in the rears use the ford full syntec in the red bottle ? w 140 sorry brain fart ART help!
hope i don't hurt your feelings here. but im known for speaking out when i wasted my hard earned cash on junk and that encludes new trucks with problems
 
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 10:46 AM
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I have the same truck and i installed the rancho steering damper and i did notice a difference over the stock one. I have 305/75-16 tires.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 10:53 AM
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each to his or her own.
personaly i had bad luck with the rancho products.i did not feel any thing different from a standard h/d gas shock or damper. but i also spent 42 years fixing cars and trucks as a full time job. "cummins,detroit, and several car companys" so my personal feeling may be different then some one elses. i may feel some thing the owner has not, but at the same time a owner may feel some thing i know as normal or not feel.
hope you understand what i mean.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 11:11 AM
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I believe it's 75w140 in the rear. Regular 75w90 (80w90) in front. I recently changed out my rear fluid with Amsoil. I had a whine from the backside of the gears in 4x4 at highway speeds (40-70MPH) and some slight whine on deceleration in 4x2. No more whine! And that's with Ford's stock synthetic in there to begin with. I'm not pushing Amsoil, it was the only thing I could find that day

I gotta DISAGREE with the Captain on the stabilizer. I don't know what they put on the newer ones, but the wimpy little stocker on my '01 bled it self out in 6 months (bought NEW!) and even before it bled, it did almost nothing. A single Rancho made a BIG difference. I also put the 9000x's at all four corners, and again, HUGE improvement over stock. I could run over a rough patch of road and the rear end would be all over the place. Now, with the Ranchos, I can go over almost anything without any loss of control. Again, not pushing Ranchos, but compared to the stockers they were a big improvement. At 61K miles, I'm sure that stock damper is GONE...

Everything else is fine

art k.

PS: I am not pushing brands, just that the aftermarket has certainly got better shocks/dampers than what was put in in '01/02 - Not sure about '05 and up
 
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 11:19 AM
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NO DOUBT ART. i'm a old fart as every one knows and personaly like the feel of a reg design gas shock. and here you are correct as i usally put on a top line gas like bilstein or koni's even edelbrock. in the top of their line models, the rancho's rode to hard for me."remember guys bad spine here"
the stock items if they make the end of the warrenty your lucky, just we have many choices out there in after market . foam cell or std gas load.
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 11:22 AM
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i did quote my tire size wrong, i have 315/75-16 and was having steering wheel shimmy at 65mph. I put on the rancho damper and the shimmy stopped.I have done many upgrades over the years and the only change seen was my wallet being lighter. I did put a set of edelbrock IAS shocks on an Explorer a couple of years ago and had the wife ask me what i did because the Explorer was riding better. That was a shock because usually the only thing she notices is if i wash her car.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 11:31 AM
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i sure do hear you . it's still each owners own choice and likes.
as to wifes mine is the same way.she never felt the shimmy in her liberty but when i yanked the **** poor blown out but not leaking factory shocks out at 30k for a set of koni's she was like what did you do it rides better much better. "yes the dealer wrote no problem found when i complained about it" but thats another dcx story.
it's fun finding out what people have used and liked or spent good cash on and lost.
my rancho 's where on my 95 f150 4x4 and plus i 4 shocked the front end with bronco mounts . that one got edelbrock and still has with my son in law driving it. still rides great.
maybe it's all in the grade of the brand , maybe some one has a good answer to it.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 12:50 PM
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Lee I got nothing to add to the already good advice here

But your 315s with the shimmy did NOT get fixed by adding the heavier dampner you just don't feel it now.

If toe in, caster and camber are all set correctly, and the tire pressuer is correct for the weight and the tires are properly balanced then there will be no "shimmy" and then the dampner will do what is is supposed to do... dampen bump steer feedback from uneven or choppy road surface
 
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 01:25 PM
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The good ole' boys are gettin' a little off the subject, so I'm gonna reel 'em back in for ya (no offense intended ). Why are you goning to change the plugs at 61K? I think the general concensus here (and in the manual) is 100K +/-.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bterry
The good ole' boys are gettin' a little off the subject, so I'm gonna reel 'em back in for ya (no offense intended ). Why are you goning to change the plugs at 61K? I think the general concensus here (and in the manual) is 100K +/-.

BZZZTTTTTT. Wrong answer

Just did mine at 22K miles, 5 years old. Two were rusty, one was getting locked in the head already. 2 or 3 were crusty with dirt that got past the boot. And ran a heck of a lot better after.

Every few years is a GOOD thing. I learned that with my 4.6L modulars. Every 20K miles, it worked out to be, for me, but I don't put a lot of mileage (no commute).
 
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 09:05 PM
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i have to agree with art on the time frame.
i personally have pulled out plugs at 20 that were stated to go 60 and found them totally worn out from the type of driving the truck was used for. 60k on a platnium plug is a very good throw them away point. even if they are not bad , just as art stated other things can make them go bad. or start to miss fire a tad from this stuff they call gas around here.
60k and mine are going by by also replaced with a standard set of motorcraft or autolight like from the factory. no bosch or another brand as i personally don't like them.
now the wifes liberty they said 60k and where right at the porclen at 30k and miss fireing. those i canned the champs on replaced with autolight and beleive it or not the truck runs better then from the factory.and if the guys changing plugs on a v10 think our motor is hard to work on try this one or a 4,7 dcx slug motor.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by pjl42
1. Oil change with mobil 1 and k&n oil filter
2. Transmission change with mobil 1 tranny fluid. (do I just drain the fluid and add new fluid? Also, the manual states that i need 16 qts....is this right?)

I plan on having someone else do the following:

1. flush coolant system
2. install new plugs, muffler and Cat (magnaflow), shocks and steering damper (rancho)
3. change differential fluid, brake, power steering fluid

Am I missing anything? Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated...
1. As long as you stick with the 5w20...you should be fine. The K&N can be used, but might want to add a pre-charger too. IMHO...I would skip it...unless you are adding a complete intake system. Even then...it only helps at the higher RPM's.

2. 16qts...NOT. If you are only going to pull the plug and not remove the pan...prob only about 7 or 8 qts. Only use the Mercon/Dextron III.

2b. Also request the plug boots be replaced. Good insurance to keeping the plug area nice and clean until the next plug change. As for the Rancho brand...I am NOT a believer. Have used them in the past...and they are good for off-road...but not highway driving...IMHO.

Good luck with it. Nice to see a SD V10 getting the attention it deserves.

biz
 
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 05:47 AM
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with the oil filter lets remember that little dity from the owners manual and a fact some v10 owners have found fact.

" a after market oil filter may possibly cause a low rpm engine knock". for $3.29 at walley world you can get motorcraft oil filters"around me price may varie" so why take a chance with a after market filter .
but again the motorcraft filter is so easily found why use after market, for the sake of some companies advertising campains, or i use this even though it's proven it's not the best product out.
42 years i wrenched in dealers, and many, many times found a after market product caused a problem. some spark plugs "missfireing/hesitation", oil filter's "sludge build up low oil pressure problems" air filters" mass air senser failer rates" these were a few of problems found to many times over.
sorry if some of you think different but many dealer techs can and will prove my thinking fact .
 
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 06:31 AM
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BZZZTTTTTT. Wrong answer.
Well, OK then. I really thought they were supposed to last alot longer. I'd better change mine too huh? 85K. Sorry pjl and others for the wrong info.
 
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