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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 04:23 AM
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Question Advice / tips on fluid change.

Well, It's almost time for another oil change in my 2001 Ranger. At this point I would like to change all fluids (oil, transmission, axle's, t-case and rad). How much time will I need to do everything. I have access to all the tools needed and a heated shop to work in. And of course does anyone have any tricks, tips or experience with this maintenance.

My truck is a 2001, 4.0SOHC, 5R55E, 4X4. It was bought new in February of 2001.

Oil and rad are not an issue. I have done that more than once. It's really the tranny, t-case and axle's I'm unsure of.

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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 10:23 AM
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On the tranny, drop the pan, install a new filter/gasket, then refill based on # of quarts that were drained. Immediatetly and without driving it, follow with a tranny flush.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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The tranny I believe is a 5spd It will have a drain plug and it takes a little better than three qts of of Mercon. no issue there simple straight forward biggest issue is how to pump 3 qts in the tranny. Transfer case same way pull drain plug then refill with proper fluid same issue of how to get new fluid in. Differentials pull the covers let drain reseal covers with RTV then refill with proper fluids. You should be able to do this in 4 - 6 hrs
 
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 11:25 AM
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Set the truck level. Transfer case, remove filler plug then drain plug. Allow to drain then put back drain plug, and fill until oil starts running out the filler plug hole. Usually use auto fluid for filling Mercon/DexronIII
Differentials, you need to siphon out the oil, through the filler plug, or remove the covers and reseal with RTV. Then add fluid to the front diff. If the rear is limited slip, you need to add in a anti-friction oil with the regular oil, talk to a supplier for appropriate amounts of anti-friction oil to add. Napa. Ford etc... any of these are good places to ask for the right fluids to use. Usually use 80 or 90 weight gear oil for the diffs.
Transmission, remove filler and drain plugs, put the drain plug back on. Now here's the controversy. A lot say to fill with auto Tranny oil, the problem with that is auto tranny oil is quite lightweight, and bearings tend to go. A lot of tranny shops now recommend using engine oil, 5W30. If you go that way I recommend 10W30.. I'm using 10W30 synthetic, it's great, have had no problems with it, For 2 years now, it shifts better than before and is as quiet as a brand new tranny. Your choice of what oil to use in your tranny is entirely up to you though.

Hope this helps.

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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 11:27 AM
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Here's something to help out with the tranny fluid change: 4R/5R55E Tranny Fluid & Filter Change.

Regarding the differentials, instead of taking off the covers you can pick up one of those siphon pumps that you see at all the parts stores and use it to pump the fluid out through the fill hole.

The transfer case takes regular Mercon fluid. The differentials take gear oil (check your owners manual for specs). Since the diffs and TC don't get changed often, you might consider using synthetic or partial synthetic fluids.

Don't forget to add a couple ounces of friction modifier to the rear diff if it's a limited slip.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by wtroger
The tranny I believe is a 5spd It will have a drain plug and it takes a little better than three qts of of Mercon. no issue there simple straight forward biggest issue is how to pump 3 qts in the tranny. Transfer case same way pull drain plug then refill with proper fluid same issue of how to get new fluid in. Differentials pull the covers let drain reseal covers with RTV then refill with proper fluids. You should be able to do this in 4 - 6 hrs
I never saw an AT with a drain plug. You should use the newer Mercon V for fluid.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Noble Lumpkin
I never saw an AT with a drain plug. You should use the newer Mercon V for fluid.
Yeah but he thought it was a manual tranny and those do have a drain plug, I also thought it was a manual tranny.

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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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............... 5R55E.............
This is an automatic, not a manual.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by CowboyBilly9Mile
This is an automatic, not a manual.
Yeah I know, I just missed that when I posted.

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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 09:03 PM
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My bad it is an automatic
 
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 07:12 AM
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Now here's a thought... If you drop the pan and only replace what tranny oil you took out, then you are only changing 1/2 of the fluid because there is still fluid in the torque converter and the tranny lines and the tranmission cooler if you have one.

I read a post somewhere which gives the proper way to actually flush the entire system. I'll see if I can't find it and post.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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Stupid thing erased my post.

I've never heard of the 10W-30 in a manual tranny. Seems a little odd to me.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 04:57 PM
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Old british cars always used engine oil in the manual trans... don't know about other cars though...
 
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 05:24 PM
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Sine the late 60's a lot (not all Ford )manuals used atf fluid. It is an old racers trick to use 10w-30 instead of 80-90w fluid especially when qualifying. And as a side note 80-90w you buy today is really only a 40w oil by true viscosity it just has the lubricating ability of 90w gear oil. and the synthetics are lighter still. The only issue with using 10w-30 motor oil is keeping it from foaming. I do know that using 80-90w oil in one designed for ATF will make them hard (if not impossible) to shift in cold weather. And yes Ford manuals suffer from gear roll over noise because of the lighter fluids and Ford does recommend changing the fuild at 60,000 miles. At least that is what my Ranger manual required.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by wtroger
Sine the late 60's a lot (not all Ford )manuals used atf fluid. It is an old racers trick to use 10w-30 instead of 80-90w fluid especially when qualifying. And as a side note 80-90w you buy today is really only a 40w oil by true viscosity it just has the lubricating ability of 90w gear oil. and the synthetics are lighter still. The only issue with using 10w-30 motor oil is keeping it from foaming. I do know that using 80-90w oil in one designed for ATF will make them hard (if not impossible) to shift in cold weather. And yes Ford manuals suffer from gear roll over noise because of the lighter fluids and Ford does recommend changing the fuild at 60,000 miles. At least that is what my Ranger manual required.
You're absolutely right, originally the trannys in our rangers ran 80-90W, then revised specs required ATF, and then they realized that an ATF thins out with time killing your tranny bearings... And then came the engine oil. I'm now running 10W30 Syntec as per recommendations of the tranny shop. I had nothing to lose I blew the tranny on 80-90w, I blew the bearings on ATF. And now I have to say this is the smoothest tranny I've had in this Ranger on 10W30.

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