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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 11:59 PM
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I'm trying to find the pin #199 color (MLP sensor signal).and pin #359 color (sensor signal return).so i can check my MLPS to see if its working correctly .
94 F250 4x4 E4OD
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 07:52 AM
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Well, for those who don't know(I didn't) the MLP sensor is the Manual Lever Position sensor(I hate acronyms). From what I read this will give you a error code 67.

The first thing they say is to make sure the heat and AC controls are off. If they are on while reading the codes, it will give you a code 67.

Then they say if you have an E4OD in a pickup truck, and are getting code 67, take it to a transmission specialist. I hate books that tell you that.

From what I can tell, the MLP sensor goes to pin #30 and is a lightblue/white wire. In other applications, this #30 pin is called a NDS(Neutral Drive Switch). I can see this switch sending an on-off signal if you are in neutral or park, but I don't know what it does in the MLP manual lever position mode. I am guessing this sensor must be down inside the tranny or why would they want you to take it to a tranny shop?

Here's a diagram I found, look at the top center. Pin 30 is a lightblue/yellow in this diagram.
http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/g...3d800a3a50.gif
 
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Kansas-Mike
I'm trying to find the pin #199 color (MLP sensor signal).and pin #359 color (sensor signal return).so i can check my MLPS to see if its working correctly .
94 F250 4x4 E4OD
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-Mike
Circuit #199 (Wire No.) is Light Blue wire wit a Yellow stripe and goes to pin#6 of the sensor plug.
Circuit #359 is a Gray with a Red stripe and goes to pin#7 of the sensor plug.
The above information are plug pin numbers for the AODE or 4R70W Transmission connector C1012 that plugs into the Transmission Range (TR) Sensor.
For the E40D Transmission #199 is pin #3 & 359 is pin #2 and the colors are the same as the 4R70W.
#199 (LB/Y) is Transmission Range (TR) Position Output.
#359 (GY/R) is Signal Return.
 

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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 10:07 AM
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Franklin, Subford Thanks for the help. I was up till 2 in the morning look at that diagram. It seems like there is not enough info on the diagram. For the trans.
Subford where did you get your info?
 
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 10:51 AM
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Franklin, Subford Thanks for the help. I was up till 2 in the morning look at that diagram. It seems like there is not enough info on the diagram. For the trans.
Subford where did you get your info?
The Manual Lever Position Switch is also called a TR Sensor. The Diagram calls it a Manual Lever Position Switch and the Electrical and Vacuum Troubleshooting Manual calls it a TR Sensor.
I think you are working on a 1994 and the above information is from a 1994 Factory Truck Wiring Diagram by Ford.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 11:29 AM
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I do not know what Transmission you have so here is a diagram for each plug.



 
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 12:30 PM
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Where did you come a cross the diagram? was it on the web sight?
 
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 01:05 PM
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Where did you come a cross the diagram? was it on the web sight?
No, they came from an official Ford CD, but they are the same as in the Ford Electrical and Vacuum Troubleshooting Manual.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 01:39 PM
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Thanks. I was going crazy last night looking at my Haynes and Chilton.
Did you get them from e-bay?
 
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Thanks. I was going crazy last night looking at my Haynes and Chilton.
Did you get them from e-bay?
I do not allow a Haynes or Chilton at my place, I hear they are good for starting a fire in a fireplace though.
Yes I did get those from eBay but I also buy from Helm Inc.

 
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 09:29 AM
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Mike,

What exactly are you trying to fix?

FWIW, you can download a copy of the service CD from www fordcds com (insert the dots). See page 149-10 of the EVTM .

For whatever reason, I can't directly cut and paste graphics from the service CD into something that will allow me to save it as a .jpg and allow it to be posted. My images always get cut in half vertically and the halves are swapped left/right.. Dunno why.

Steve
 
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 02:17 PM
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I was looking for a diagram of the trans range sensor plug.
I have everything I was looking for.
Accept for the inflated price of the part.
Thanks for the help.
 
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