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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 05:32 PM
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86 f150-no start.

I just put a new starter in my truck...I started and shut it off about 5-6 times after i put it in..started fine. my dad started it the next day. The other night i started it to move our trailer and as i was going across the yard the headlights were shutting on and off. when i parked it it stalled, and acted like the battery was dead....Tried the jump pack and nothing, tried jumper cables with my geo tracker running and it started...Now it wont start at all, Had the battery tested, and it was good. IT doesnt even have enough power to turn the dome light and headlights on at the same time...what can cause this?
 
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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Have you checked all ground and hot wires? Just a thought.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 06:07 PM
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the ground is good...What is the thing mounted on the passenger fender well and the positive cable goes to that?
 
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 06:17 PM
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sarter relay if I'm thinking correctly.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 10:20 PM
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That is your starter solenoid. Could be dead, but with the thing about the lights going off and on it must be a bad connection.

The first thing to do is to (whether they need it or not,) clean both battery cables both sides both ends. Also clean and your engine to chassis ground cable, both ends, both sides and the surface that they bolt to.

If that didn't fix your problem, check you fusable links.

All that done, use a jumper cable and briefly short across the two large terminals on your solenoid. If it cranks that way, pull off the small wire from your ignition switch to the solenoid and short that to the positive cable. If it does not work, change the solenoid. If it doesn't crank with either of those two tests, replace the starter.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2006 | 12:17 PM
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Just a thought. I think it might be wise to check / replace your computer relay. It is under the dash on my '86 F150 (302). Mine was bad and I replaced batteries (2) alternators, starters, ground wires, etc. before I figured it out. Once I replaced the relay (which was draining all the juice from shorting out or something) the problems all went away. Good Luck.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2006 | 12:18 PM
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By the way, the relay is pretty cheap $20.00 or so.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2006 | 01:00 PM
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Sounds to me like some serious grounding issues. Even if the Engine/block ground looks good, it may be damaged inside the insulation. I fought this with mine for 2 days. Replace starter, solenoid, battery, alternator, ignition switch. Replaced the gound cable from the battery to the frame/engine block and it all finally worked.

Before, all the electrics would work until I turned the key to the start position. Once I turned to the start position, the lights would quit and the solenoid would not even engage. Wait 5 minutes and it would do the same thing.

Turns out that the ground cable was corroded inside the insulation all the way from the frame fastening point up to the battery.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2006 | 02:58 PM
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My truck had the same problem. Starter, cables and solinoid were all good. I ended up cleaning the back of the solinoid and on the fender where the solinoid mounts with some steel wool and a file so i know it was grounding good for sure right there and that fixed my problems. Worth a try, its easy and cheap.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 02:26 PM
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I put a new ground cable on and a new solenoid, you can jump the solenoid and it will start, but as soon as you turn the headlights on it shuts off, could this be the computer relay?
 
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 05:08 PM
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Check the fusible links and check the ground from the motor to the cab.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 10:36 PM
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where are these fusible links?
 
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 02:25 PM
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They should be on the passenger fender in a wire loom or exposed. They look like small rectangles inline with the wires. Just poke through the side closest to the cab and check if you have voltage or check the continuity across the fusible link. Once again i would definetly make sure you have a good ground from the cab to the engine block and that it is not loose.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 03:32 PM
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where is the engine to cab ground?
 
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 04:06 PM
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The engine to cab ground should start at the back of the engine block on the drivers side, kind of by the oil pressure sensor and run up to the cab itself to the left(if your looking at it from under the hood of the truck) of the wipre motor. I Am still kind of unclear on your problem. Lets get it straight. The truck will not crank when turning the key from inside, but it will start if you jump the terminals on the starter solinoid. Then it will run, but will shut off if you turn the lights on?
 
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