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Old Feb 10, 2006 | 08:02 PM
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What I see is it's failing at idle for CO.

Vacuum leak?

Something's causing a bad burn.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2006 | 07:24 PM
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I'm pretty sure that there is not any vacuum leaks. I don't know what else could be done to help it out. Maybe the thermostat is the primary issue.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2006 | 09:43 PM
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Theoretically, a colder engine will have higher CO because the burn is not as efficient. Worth a shot!
 
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 07:20 PM
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I found out the stock thermostat is 195 degree with an optional 192 degree. I got a 195 degree. I'll probably just use the 180 degree in the summer time.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 08:39 PM
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Let us know if it changes anything. Running that lower thermostat doesn't help with engine life either, especially on newer motors.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 08:46 PM
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i know a little bit about chemistry, if your CO or Carbon Monoxide level is too high, that means that you are not getting enough oxygen to the fuel. its the same as a furnace, if its not well ventilated it will produce CO, if your car is running in the garage with the door closed, it will produce CO, because there is too much carbon dioxide and not enough oxygen
 
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 09:27 PM
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But if you look at his numbers, his O2 is very high at idle. Think about what makes an engine run like it's rich. How about EGR leaking in at idle? Slows the combustion process down if it is in too high a dilution, and definately is not wanted at idle. Perhaps the valve isn't fully seating. A second, less likely possibility is a misfire loading the catalyst with excess fuel, where it might burn incompletely and come out as high O2, High CO, (but not always high HC). But my money (all $0.53 of it) is on a sticky EGR. The rest of the numbers are great, so don't be too discouraged.

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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 08:11 AM
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I'll probably be attempting a second inspection in the next couple of days. Would using a regular paper air filter be better for this test or the K&N? I thought maybe the K&N would cause it to run richer, because of more air flowing through the mass air sensor. Any thoughts on that? The EGR valve has been replaced recently. Do you think it could still be the problem? How can I tell if the valve is being problematic?
 
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 07:58 PM
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Just to follow up. My F150 passed emissions test today. I changed the thermostat, used a paper air filter instead of the K&N, ran low octane fuel, and ran that G2P product from CRC through the fuel before testing.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 09:10 PM
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Cool!

The thermostat and the fuel, I would think, are the key factors there.

On the other hand, that additive might have something to do with it. I wonder what's in it?
 
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 12:31 AM
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I don't know what is in it. I know I'll be using that CRC stuff next year, if I can find it. Just as a precaution. I think what it really does is just clean combustion chamber and valves etc. I forgot to show the test results. The other variables weren't really altered. They showed that the CO was 1.18 at idle instead of the 1.31. The limit is 1.20. That was a close one.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 05:58 AM
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My dad has a 1988 SuperDuty with a 460 in it. The things smokes BAD (needs new rings, goes through at least 1-2 quarts of oil per day in the summer).

He took it in for emissions testing and it failed, by a lot. So, he put the Guaranteed to Pass stuff in it and it passed with FLYING COLOURS. Weird, but it works.

-Matt
 
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 10:15 AM
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I wonder when the EPA/DEC will notice that stuff and OUTLAW it - basically it's a CHEAT and should be banned
 
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It might be a cheat, but from what it says it may just be a cleaner.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 07:59 AM
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It might be a cheat, but from what it says it may just be a cleaner.
Exactly what it is. It cleans the injector nozzles, the intake valves, and the combustion chambers and piston tops. This (especially cleaning the nozzles and intake valves) greatly improves mixture and combustion efficiency. This increases power and reduces emissions. Clogged injectors can be as bad as too much flow from the injectors.
 
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