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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 05:30 AM
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is this possible??

I am Hoping some of you guys may be able to answer this...here goes. I am thinking of using an f350 dually single cab to build a horsebox. I know in the States trailers are used mostly for this as far as I can make out. In England although trailers are used, bodies are fitted to twin wheel chassis cab set ups like the Ford Transit. I have never seen this done with an american truck. just so you are aware the biggest engine fitted in a Ford transit is a 2.5 litre diesel. as with most English vehicles they are just about up to the job......just.
An F-350 would eat one of these for breakfast,but I have never seen it done.
Hence this post. how much can one carry, has any body seen it done.

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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 07:21 AM
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 10:33 AM
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I may have a quaint (and obsolete) view of England, but do they have roads corresponding to our Interstate system? I.e., Standing a horse(s) in the bed of a pickup would certainly present a high center of gravity for the load, but maybe you can get away with it when travelling slowly. When being passed by a semi doing 70 though I'd want my CG to be as low as possible, even with the dually.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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Back, in the 50-60's most farmers used grain trucks with fold up stock racks, to haul cattle. Some even used pick up beds with at stock rack. Yes it can be done. Is it done much anymore no, but doesn't mean you can't. I'm sure you can google livestock hauling, and might find some old pictures.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jorlee
Back, in the 50-60's most farmers used grain trucks with fold up stock racks, to haul cattle. Some even used pick up beds with at stock rack. Yes it can be done. Is it done much anymore no, but doesn't mean you can't. I'm sure you can google livestock hauling, and might find some old pictures.
I remember it well. Around here, almost all farmers did it (and sometimes still do). The farmers that did it were generally very slow and deliberate drivers driving 6 cylinder pickups. It wasn't safe or pretty but the police left alone (and still do) because they say farmers have so many loopholes in the Virginia law that it is not worth the trouble. They also know that a typical country farmer is going to show up in court and argue in front of the judge.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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Thanks for the info, what I had in mind wasn't so agricultural. In England the most common vehicle used for this is a Ford transit with is engine sizes from 1.6 litre to about 2.5 litre diesel. I cannot imagine anyone on this site remotley imagine towing or carrying a one tonne plus payload with such a vehicle ( please prove wrong). Yet in England this is very common, probably because thier is no alternative readily available. This is why I possed the question. I have posted a link to a Ford Transit horsebox. As I hope you can see this can't weigh any where the same as 7.3 turbo diesel dually although the width I guess, is about the same.
http://www.horsemart.co.uk/DisplayHo...tRef=HM552AF90
This is not a particularly pretty example, but you can get some idea of scale.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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Here in the Midwest, it used to be common practice to have slide in racks with their own floors, kind of like a slide in camper, but it would be stood on end and tipped into the box. The only exposed area was off to the sides of the center floor. It wasn't all that unsafe, no real difference than a trailer, just happens to be more upfront and visable. It also required a loading ramp or such to be able to get the stock in or out.
Looking at the link, I would say it would be very doable, it's just higher profile, but no different than some moving vans.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 08:24 PM
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They still haul cattle and horses in the back of pickup's in WV.
We have lots of farmers here also, I used to be one.
I have an 8 foot x 9 foot flat bed dump on my truck, it has stake pockets that I could build a set of racks and drop right in. I would not have to think twice about doing it if I had to move a couple of horses or cows.
Just remember you have to have a couple of inches of mulch or saw dust on the floor so the livestock can stand without slipping on the steel floor.
After that you just have to drive in an apropriate manner, 1500 pounds walking around in the bed can give you strange feelings going around the corners.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 12:29 AM
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So from your replies, would I be right in thinking an F 350 dually(single cab) would be up to job for this type of conversion and well able to carry 2 horses. Has anybody got any idea on the length of one of these chassis from the back of the cab to the rear of the chassis? so I can get some idea of the maximum box length I could fit ?
 
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 07:35 AM
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you could actually just look for an old moving van, it will be longer, but have the body already on it, just the ramp would be needed.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by fellro86
you could actually just look for an old moving van, it will be longer, but have the body already on it, just the ramp would be needed.
The reason I would like to use an f-350 is. The old moving vans you get in England that I could use, and drive on a car licence of a similar size. Are all fitted with 2 litre diesels engines with manual g/box. putting out almost 100 bhp and not much more torque ! I can't help thinking how nice it would be have a similar size vehicle with 7.3litre engine and hundreds of pounds of torque. auto box and aircon!
 
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 12:13 PM
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The rear axle rating on an '05 350 dually is 9,000 pounds. Its up to it.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 02:50 PM
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I was refrring to a miving van built on the F350 or E350 chassis, but if you are importing it, then you probably would be best starting with an F350 chassis, then adding your box on. You may consider getting a cab-chassis, they are a bit longer wheelbase, and will not have the box on them.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2006 | 04:00 PM
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Thanks for all your replies on this subject I think i'm getting the idea that an F350 would be up to the job. I just need now to import an F350 cab-chassis!
 
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Old Feb 6, 2006 | 06:08 PM
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Not much fun driving something that big from the left seat in the left lane. I know from experience driving an F350 crew cab around Suffolk in the mid 80s. "B" roads were challenging.
 
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