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I have a 78 f250 4x4, i was attempting to take apart the drivers side hub, (this is manual locking hubs). I got the all the way to the axle shaft sleeve and ring. Now how does this come off? I removed the snap ring, but the sleeve doesn't pull off. Do i need a puller or something? THe reason i am digging around in here is cuz i could not get that side to lock in, the innner clutch ring seems to stick and won't pop into the ring gear on the sleeve. I cleaned as well as i could, and now can get it to lock in but it sticks. and it is harder than hell to turn the **** to free the hub. what is going on in there. does it need a good cleaning or is the sping just weak? Any way if could get the sleeve off the axle i would get a better idea. Thanks for any info people. Also it would be nice to re-pack my bearings but can't due to this problem.
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Man oh,man. Your fixin' to have a bad day. Naw. Not really.
This is commin' from a book. So if it's wrong please don't blame
me.
73-79's were equiped with 3 types of hubs; internal lockouts,
external lockouts, & full time hubs. The best I can tell the internal lockouts say Ford on the actuator ****.(the **** used to
to lock and unlock the hub) The external lockouts look like Warns. The internal type has to be in the locked position to get
all the goodies out. The external type has to be in the free
position.
From what you say that means reasm. to the **** to be able to lock or unlock your hub.
Otherwise everthing should come out piece by piece with no
problem.(but you no how that goes.)
Re-post if this don't work. I'll put it down step by step if
you end up needin' it. Good luck.
This is commin' from a book. So if it's wrong please don't blame
me.
73-79's were equiped with 3 types of hubs; internal lockouts,
external lockouts, & full time hubs. The best I can tell the internal lockouts say Ford on the actuator ****.(the **** used to
to lock and unlock the hub) The external lockouts look like Warns. The internal type has to be in the locked position to get
all the goodies out. The external type has to be in the free
position.
From what you say that means reasm. to the **** to be able to lock or unlock your hub.
Otherwise everthing should come out piece by piece with no
problem.(but you no how that goes.)
Re-post if this don't work. I'll put it down step by step if
you end up needin' it. Good luck.
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well, I have gone by book on this. we proballly have the same one, (haynes). I have the internal locking hub. the reason i believe the hub has to be in locked positions is to relieve the tension on the spring. when the spring has no tension the clutch ring ingauges to the axle sleeve. The bood doesn't say any thing about the sleeve needing a tool to get it out, i tell you what, it will not come out. There is a groove in the axle shaft that the snap ring sits in and that rigde seems to be holding the axle sleeve from sliding out. I am unable to get any thing behind the sleeve to pry. I always thought they slide right out. This is why I bought the book cuz of this problem. Help I don't want to spend 100 bucks for a 1/2 hr job here.
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You should also have an outer round ring that retains the lockout part in the wheel hub. If I read your post right, you may have missed this step. Get in close with a flashlight and small screwdriver and run it around the inside of the wheel hub. There should be a small round ring that actually does the retaining of the lockout assy.
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Chk What Dave was saying first.
Go to the diagram on page 177. Note:axel shaft sleeve AND ring.
The "and ring" part may be what you're not seeing.
From what Dave is saying and looking at the diagram that is where
your problem lays. There must be a groove for the ring to come out before the axel shaft sleeve. If not, then the sticking
problem must be coming from that part getting stuck or bound up
due to wear.
The book says they should "slide" out. Chk for a burr on an
axel spline fouling it up. A magnifing glass might help.
IF POSSIBLE, chk and see if the axel shaft sleeve and inner
clutch ring is burred and locking the two. That will be hard to do,I know.
You might try removing the caliper and pads. Then try to separate the hub and rotor, bringing out the parts or at least
loosening them where they can be removed.
By what I'm looking at the parts should all remove easy. That area is what inga/disin your hubs. So it seams they would require
total free movement.
Go to the diagram on page 177. Note:axel shaft sleeve AND ring.
The "and ring" part may be what you're not seeing.
From what Dave is saying and looking at the diagram that is where
your problem lays. There must be a groove for the ring to come out before the axel shaft sleeve. If not, then the sticking
problem must be coming from that part getting stuck or bound up
due to wear.
The book says they should "slide" out. Chk for a burr on an
axel spline fouling it up. A magnifing glass might help.
IF POSSIBLE, chk and see if the axel shaft sleeve and inner
clutch ring is burred and locking the two. That will be hard to do,I know.
You might try removing the caliper and pads. Then try to separate the hub and rotor, bringing out the parts or at least
loosening them where they can be removed.
By what I'm looking at the parts should all remove easy. That area is what inga/disin your hubs. So it seams they would require
total free movement.
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well guys, i was on it again for a couple of hrs. I have taken everything apart by book. took the internal snap ring off, the outer clutch ring adnt the actuating cam came out as before. took the axle shaft snap ring off. still can't pull the axle sleeve off the axle. it stops were the snap ring fits into place.I can take and move the sleeve back into the hub till it hits the inner clutch ring, but cant' wiggle it out of the hub. I losened as much as i could on the hub itself but this seeemed not to do any favor for me.
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Ok. The only other thing i can think of, since the axel sleeve
shows to be splined to fit the axel, is to get both sides in
the air and put your transfer case in neutr. Rotate the front driveshaft at tiny incriments untill maybe somthing will line up
right allowing it to come apart. Doing it safely,of course!
Mark the sleeve with a greese pencil so you can tell how much it
turns. Might help to have a competant person to help watch it
or remove it for you while you turn the shaft.
I don't have a clue as to wether this will work or not. But
what the heck? I'ts worth a try.
If there is a trick to it I will be able to put it on here for you shortly. A friend of mine runs a 4wd performance center.
He even named his daughter Dana.(true story)
That is if noone on here figures it out first.
shows to be splined to fit the axel, is to get both sides in
the air and put your transfer case in neutr. Rotate the front driveshaft at tiny incriments untill maybe somthing will line up
right allowing it to come apart. Doing it safely,of course!
Mark the sleeve with a greese pencil so you can tell how much it
turns. Might help to have a competant person to help watch it
or remove it for you while you turn the shaft.
I don't have a clue as to wether this will work or not. But
what the heck? I'ts worth a try.
If there is a trick to it I will be able to put it on here for you shortly. A friend of mine runs a 4wd performance center.
He even named his daughter Dana.(true story)
That is if noone on here figures it out first.
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Well reading the above notes it sounds like you're getting everything but the gear off the axel shaft. If its getting hung up at the snap ring groove but slides in farther, then you better keep looking for a burr on the axel. Try using a small file to remove any sign of a burr in the axel splines right at the snap ring groove. I had to do this to get my hub apart last time.
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Thanks everyone for your help on this. I finally got it out. I took a hammer, and tapped on the axle shaft and the sleeve came off. I cleaned every thing and cleaned the hub out, there seemed to be some grit and gunk in there. I put it back together, but it at times won't lock in right away when i turn the ****. Then if i try to free the hub it doen't want to turn. Thein if i move a bit i can turn the hub free. And at other times the hub is free but the **** hasn't been turned the distance. What is going on here. Has any one else have this problem. How much grease should be in the hub. I have only little as to much seemed to not let clutch gear ingauge into the sleeve ring gear.
I have no problem w/ the other side.
I have no problem w/ the other side.
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Thanks everyone for your help on this. I finally got it out. I took a hammer, and tapped on the axle shaft and the sleeve came off. I cleaned every thing and cleaned the hub out, there seemed to be some grit and gunk in there. I put it back together, but it at times won't lock in right away when i turn the ****. Then if i try to free the hub it doen't want to turn. Thein if i move a bit i can turn the hub free. And at other times the hub is free but the **** hasn't been turned the distance. What is going on here. Has any one else have this problem. How much grease should be in the hub. I have only little as to much seemed to not let clutch gear ingauge into the sleeve ring gear.
I have no problem w/ the other side.
I have no problem w/ the other side.
I've never put any grease on my hubs, about all it does is make them stick, all I do reassembling mine is just a good coating of WD-40, & I've never had a problem
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The hub should go together dry. Maybe some dry graphite. When its cold outside the grease will be too thick and may stick. A very light coating of some light grease should be ok.
Dave,
79 F-150 4x4, 390 w/C6, Edelbrock carb, 33X12.50 never will be finished.
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