DP Tuner 4 pos Chip question
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DP Tuner 4 pos Chip question
I will be ordering my DP chip tomorrow and just wanted to know what is best stuff to get. I am on a new stock tranny with BD shift accumalator...so what is highest hp setting to get before the extra power becomes useless unless you have a upgraded tranny. Just dont want to waste my money since i dont forsee doing another tranny anytime soon. And also is stock and high idle worth to get? My truck already kicks into high idle in cold weather and long idling situations on its own so what is this used for on the chip?..and stock..although in theory sounds nice, but in reality will there ever be a need to have it back on stock? i was thinking stock, 40, 60, 80 or 40, 60, 80, 100 ....all depending on what you guys think. 40 for heavier tows, 60 for normal tows, 80 for econo and power....and teh other is up in the air. And can you get just a 3 position chip?
Thanks for all answers and opinions
Tony
Thanks for all answers and opinions
Tony
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I just got my DP-Tuner Chip yesterday and it is great. I got stock-40-80-120, with a stock tranny and no fuel mods. The 40 has nice power much better than stock. The 80 is great just as powerful if not better than the SCMT with a 10k mod. Much smoother throttle throughout the rpm range trans shifts nice. The 120hp is crazy, lots of power, and no slipping of the tranny. However, I do experience turbo stall/surge when I really get on it in the 120 setting. This setting will be for fun only. Jody increases the trans line pressure differently for each setting. I would at least get the 100hp if you don't want to go to the 120hp, but you would be missing the fun.
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Ask about keeping the torque converter locked, even when you touch the brakes. MUCH better than the stupidly stock concept of unlocking the TC at the touch of a brake. Doesn't cost any extra, but what a difference! The TC locks at about 38, stays locked above 38, if you are in normal overdrive. If you lock out overdrive (OD off) than the TC stays locked above 28. And it does NOT unlock just because you touch the brakes.
The better trans control is almost worth more than the extra power.
The better trans control is almost worth more than the extra power.
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Originally Posted by arninetyes
Ask about keeping the torque converter locked, even when you touch the brakes. MUCH better than the stupidly stock concept of unlocking the TC at the touch of a brake. Doesn't cost any extra, but what a difference! The TC locks at about 38, stays locked above 38, if you are in normal overdrive. If you lock out overdrive (OD off) than the TC stays locked above 28. And it does NOT unlock just because you touch the brakes.
The better trans control is almost worth more than the extra power.
The better trans control is almost worth more than the extra power.
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Towing and coming off the interstate, you touch the brake and the TC unlocks. In the 80 econo. setting, Jody uses the pmt1 pcm programming and prevents this using the engine to help slow you down as well. It will unlock around 38mph instead of when you touch the brakes.
If you are in a cold climate, the stock setting is good for starting on cold mornings(some say it is better for the motor). I like stock for driving on snow and ice so the acc. is not so touchy.
High Idle can be used in the summer to help the AC when idling.
One more thing, I like to go to stock and allow someone to drive it and then flip the switch so they can really feel the diff. I like to feel stock once in while to remind myself why I bought the chip.
If you are in a cold climate, the stock setting is good for starting on cold mornings(some say it is better for the motor). I like stock for driving on snow and ice so the acc. is not so touchy.
High Idle can be used in the summer to help the AC when idling.
One more thing, I like to go to stock and allow someone to drive it and then flip the switch so they can really feel the diff. I like to feel stock once in while to remind myself why I bought the chip.
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I got the 1400 RPM high idle, the 40 tow, the 80 econ, and the 100. I use the high idle all the time.
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Originally Posted by kilapapipa
Towing and coming off the interstate, you touch the brake and the TC unlocks. In the 80 econo. setting, Jody uses the pmt1 pcm programming and prevents this using the engine to help slow you down as well. It will unlock around 38mph instead of when you touch the brakes.
If you are in a cold climate, the stock setting is good for starting on cold mornings(some say it is better for the motor). I like stock for driving on snow and ice so the acc. is not so touchy.
High Idle can be used in the summer to help the AC when idling.
One more thing, I like to go to stock and allow someone to drive it and then flip the switch so they can really feel the diff. I like to feel stock once in while to remind myself why I bought the chip.
If you are in a cold climate, the stock setting is good for starting on cold mornings(some say it is better for the motor). I like stock for driving on snow and ice so the acc. is not so touchy.
High Idle can be used in the summer to help the AC when idling.
One more thing, I like to go to stock and allow someone to drive it and then flip the switch so they can really feel the diff. I like to feel stock once in while to remind myself why I bought the chip.
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yes. with automatic transmission- if you are going to use the exhaust brake, you NEED something to lock the torque converter up, or it will just go down to an idle and not be effective. the EBPV works best at 2500+ RPM. so if you are going down a hill, shift out of OD, and if you get below 1750 or so, just pull it down into 2nd, youll probably bark the rear tires from the compression braking, but it is normal. SP diesel makes a very nice setup that piggybacks on the cruise control functions on the wheel, you can control TC lockup without having a switch, it is all stock appearing, on the steering wheel. check ebay, they have some for sale now and then. but it IS expensive, $250 for brake and TC lockup. you CAN do both for about $20 if you were good at getting parts.
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Originally Posted by SilverBullet131313
Awesome answers. But one question....i was planning on getting something like the turbobrake or the sp diesel version where i can use the EBV and torque convertor as brakes as you say he can do to the torque convertor. Now will i be able to do both things or how does that work if i want to have the ebv as exhaust brake as well. Just trying to make it all as simple as possible.
I have the tc lock up as well. I can lock up the tc from 38mph down to 20 or so with the switch once the pcm unlocks it. I don't tow heavy enough to need anything else and lots of times now I don't even use my switch, rather, I take the OD off at around 35mph.
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A agree with kilapapipa. I use the stock setting to warm up the engine - it is so gentle. Once the engine is warm and I kick it over to even the 40hp tow setting, the difference in timing is obvious - it sounds more diesel than stock does, even at idle.
Having the TC locked has many, many benefits. It will help with deceleration. It will accelerate better because 1) torque peak is 1600 to 1800rpm, TC stall speed is about 2200. That means that until the TC locks, you cannot get full power to the ground, and 2) you're not losing all that power to the slipping TC.
Also, since the TC is slipping less, your trans will run cooler, and, finally, if the TC slips less, you should use less fuel.
I say 'should' because I haven't measured any difference in fuel usage since switching to the chip. I do, however, run it harder than I used to. The feel of the effortless, bottomless torque in the 80 and 120hp positions is addictive.
Having the TC locked has many, many benefits. It will help with deceleration. It will accelerate better because 1) torque peak is 1600 to 1800rpm, TC stall speed is about 2200. That means that until the TC locks, you cannot get full power to the ground, and 2) you're not losing all that power to the slipping TC.
Also, since the TC is slipping less, your trans will run cooler, and, finally, if the TC slips less, you should use less fuel.
I say 'should' because I haven't measured any difference in fuel usage since switching to the chip. I do, however, run it harder than I used to. The feel of the effortless, bottomless torque in the 80 and 120hp positions is addictive.