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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 03:02 PM
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I am having problems with my truck not firing up right away like it used to. I have tested the glow plug relay and it is ok, I replaced one glow plug that was bad and one the was reading a little high. I have tried cycling the relay several times and it still doesn't help. Heck the weather is only in the 40's at the coldest. I checked the voltage of the batteries and they are both 12.7 v. I can watch the amp gauge pull way down when I turn the key on and it can take a minute or two before it goes back to normal range. I also checked the voltage with the truck running and the voltage was 14.something volts. Also checked the HPOP resivior and it is full. Any Ideas of where to look next?
 
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 03:10 PM
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Even if the battery's are good the starter could be dragging. Have you noticed it turning over slower than usual??
 
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 03:31 PM
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It does sound as if it may be cranking a little slower than it use to.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 03:39 PM
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I had a similar problem a few years ago. It would start decent cold and would be a bear to start warm. It ended up being the starter. It just wasen't spinning her over fast enough any more. I bought a new starter and haven't had a problem since.
I'm not saying to run out and buy a new starter but its something to consider.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 03:49 PM
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I will consider that, thank you. It starts fine after it is warm. I have noticed that even warm the amp gauge still gets pulled over really far and takes awile to come back.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 04:18 PM
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The radical swing of the gauge (if stock, volt, not amp) is due to the cycling of the glow plugs. That's normal behavior. You shouldn't have to wait for the gauge to recenter before starting, just wait a few seconds after the "Wait To Start" light goes off.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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the batteries could be the problem. i have had a number of PSD that have tested good one the batteries but have the same condition you describe and new batteries were the cure. the batteries test just barely good but were 3 years old and just didn't ahve enough to sufficiently heat the glow plugs.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 10:22 PM
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Thanks for the replies, I think I will see if I can get a load test done on the batteries. They are only a few years old but you never know? I have to think since all else has checked out that maybe they are weak.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 11:52 PM
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Make sure that the batteries are disconected to be load tested .
 
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 09:31 PM
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Well the batteries tested out to be ok. Now I have to decide if I should go ahead and just try to buy new ones incase they are just barely good as tjbeggs suggested.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 09:43 PM
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Did you test the battery's seperatly?? Sometimes you'll have a bad one with a good one and if tested together they test good.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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Yeah I had them tested separately.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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Is there smoke when you start it? If there's white smoke it could still be that the gp relay isn't working correctly. Just because there is an amp draw that is noticeable doesn't mean it's actually running current through to the gp's. If this is a possibility for you try jumping the two large posts on the relay for 30 seconds or so. If it fires right up then replace the relay.

Re-read the very first post and saw that you'd already checked the relay. Sorry about that... 3rd (sip of) beer tonight, must be losing it. Yikes!
 

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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 06:21 AM
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i think your on the right track. i have had a few that have tested good but still didn;t have enough juice to get it done. my dad 03 did this just a few months ago. batteries weren't even 3 years old yet.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 04:24 PM
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I've heard it said that batteries are one of those items that are hard to test. I have had batteries that tested OK and solved a starting problem when replaced. Do you have any prorated life left in the batteries? If so, you might be able to trade them in and buy new ones for less than new. Just a thought.
 
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