How do you clean your valley?
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How do you clean your valley?
Hey all!
I'm so completely new to this, but this is the place to ask even the silly questions right?
I've got a leak - gas?oil? not sure really which is dripping down the back side of the engine. Now that I've found the "valley" I see there is some kind of residue there. It's shiny. (see how experienced I am?)
I need to clean that whole area, so I can try to ID where the leak is coming from. My first question - how do you get to that area to clean it? Any tricks? Do you have to take apart the big hoses which go into the turbo/air filter? Then, what do you use to clean it? Paper towels and ???? (I don't want to use something that will blow up on me!)
And, if you do have to take it apart, then how do you see where a leak is actually coming from when it's all together?
Silly, I know - but It seems everything is crammed in there, and getting around so you can see what's what isn't obvious to me.
Thanks all in advance! Have patience with me.....I'll get it!
I'm so completely new to this, but this is the place to ask even the silly questions right?
I've got a leak - gas?oil? not sure really which is dripping down the back side of the engine. Now that I've found the "valley" I see there is some kind of residue there. It's shiny. (see how experienced I am?)
I need to clean that whole area, so I can try to ID where the leak is coming from. My first question - how do you get to that area to clean it? Any tricks? Do you have to take apart the big hoses which go into the turbo/air filter? Then, what do you use to clean it? Paper towels and ???? (I don't want to use something that will blow up on me!)
And, if you do have to take it apart, then how do you see where a leak is actually coming from when it's all together?
Silly, I know - but It seems everything is crammed in there, and getting around so you can see what's what isn't obvious to me.
Thanks all in advance! Have patience with me.....I'll get it!
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"How do you clean your valley?"
I'm sorry but that's getting a little too personal for me!
Just kidding, I like to use simple green or any engine degreaser on mine, the lots of paper towels. Mine was relatively clean so maybe someone that has done this on a dirtier one will come along soon and offer some advice. Kinda sounds like the turbo pedestal O rings to me???
I'm sorry but that's getting a little too personal for me!
Just kidding, I like to use simple green or any engine degreaser on mine, the lots of paper towels. Mine was relatively clean so maybe someone that has done this on a dirtier one will come along soon and offer some advice. Kinda sounds like the turbo pedestal O rings to me???
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Thanks! Do you just squirt that stuff in there and then hose it down? Or do you go to the effort of taking stuff out of the way? ie: Turbo connections (I'd be worried I'd shoot the hose down the turbo or something)......
Sounds like fun all the same...... :-)
Sounds like fun all the same...... :-)
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Just squirt what ever you choose to clean it with down the valley. All the components on your engine are sealed and can take pressure from a steam cleaner if you choose.
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I just used the fuel leak I had which happend to be biodiesel and sprayed off the leftover in the street. Then wiped the rest with paper towels and used the spare tire extention bar to get to the hard to reach places. lol
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sounds like maybe a fuel leak? I had one on my '99 PSD and found a link on this sight that explained what it was, and how to fix it... It was a small plastic valve on the backside of the fuel filter housing that had 2 o-rings that were leaking. Do you smell a lot of fuel around the engine? tha'ts a dead ringer.Also, try some cheap soda(cola) to degrease with.
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Oh! That's it!! I'll scour the site to find that.
I cleaned off what I could in the valley with paper towels last night. This morning it was still dry/clean.
I started the truck and ran it around town for about 30 minutes this morning. I noticed almost immediatedly the fuel smell (ugh! headache) and a drip under the engine, definitely fuel. After I parked it, I noticed there's some liquid in the valley again (in the depression closer to the fuel filter). Not sure what as of yet. Maybe I have a couple different leaks.
If you know where to find that article/link, let me know! I'll keep looking, at least until the Seahawk game starts......
THANKS!!!
I cleaned off what I could in the valley with paper towels last night. This morning it was still dry/clean.
I started the truck and ran it around town for about 30 minutes this morning. I noticed almost immediatedly the fuel smell (ugh! headache) and a drip under the engine, definitely fuel. After I parked it, I noticed there's some liquid in the valley again (in the depression closer to the fuel filter). Not sure what as of yet. Maybe I have a couple different leaks.
If you know where to find that article/link, let me know! I'll keep looking, at least until the Seahawk game starts......
THANKS!!!
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I wish I could remember what the part was called... It was a couple years ago that I replaced it. The part was about $50 from the dealer as I recall, but some guys had suggested replacing the two o-rings in the old part for about fifty cents (if you can find the correct size, which I couldn't). I think you need a small torx wrench to remove the 3 retaining screws, and I replaced the filter while I was at it. All in all, it's an easy fix, but smaller hands would have helped, and be sure not to drop the screws. Also, you have to open the valve and empty the fuel bowl that the filter is in, so have a cup ready to catch all the excess fuel. Pour it back into the gas tank. After the new part is on and the new filter is back in, it make take some cranking to get the engine started again... It has to refill the fuel bowl again. Good luck, and you are missing an "e" on the end of your last name...LOL
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Originally Posted by stephen.osborne1
I wish I could remember what the part was called... It was a couple years ago that I replaced it. The part was about $50 from the dealer as I recall, but some guys had suggested replacing the two o-rings in the old part for about fifty cents (if you can find the correct size, which I couldn't). I think you need a small torx wrench to remove the 3 retaining screws, and I replaced the filter while I was at it. All in all, it's an easy fix, but smaller hands would have helped, and be sure not to drop the screws. Also, you have to open the valve and empty the fuel bowl that the filter is in, so have a cup ready to catch all the excess fuel. Pour it back into the gas tank. After the new part is on and the new filter is back in, it make take some cranking to get the engine started again... It has to refill the fuel bowl again. Good luck, and you are missing an "e" on the end of your last name...LOL
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The leak sounds like the fuel filter drain valve. $55 from the dealer, look at Iinternational, the one I just bought (yeah, and I lost the damn package) had the International number covered with a label.
I suspected it because I had wetness in my right wheel well, and diesel all over my undercarrage, as well as running down the tranny bell housing.
It takes a #20 torx bit and a 1/4 drive to remove the four screws, disconnect the fuel drain tube. takes about 30-45 minutes just because it is ackward to turn each LONG screw 1/654th of a turn at a time.
My engine actually ran better after I changed it.
I have a friend who lives in Houston and has a 2000. His tranny was leaking, so he took it to the dealer, who said it was either the torgue converter or the pump housing. They pulled the tranny, and then he took it to a transmission shop because of the cost. $2500 dollars later, I looked at the engine, and changed his drain valve. Guess what, the valley drains on to the bell housing. Total cost for him to fix his valve... $2555. Hmmm, maybe he will listen to me next time.
I suspected it because I had wetness in my right wheel well, and diesel all over my undercarrage, as well as running down the tranny bell housing.
It takes a #20 torx bit and a 1/4 drive to remove the four screws, disconnect the fuel drain tube. takes about 30-45 minutes just because it is ackward to turn each LONG screw 1/654th of a turn at a time.
My engine actually ran better after I changed it.
I have a friend who lives in Houston and has a 2000. His tranny was leaking, so he took it to the dealer, who said it was either the torgue converter or the pump housing. They pulled the tranny, and then he took it to a transmission shop because of the cost. $2500 dollars later, I looked at the engine, and changed his drain valve. Guess what, the valley drains on to the bell housing. Total cost for him to fix his valve... $2555. Hmmm, maybe he will listen to me next time.