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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 02:37 PM
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yea ill get on that ill have it post asap hopefully by the end of the week
 
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 02:38 PM
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i have recieved nothing but very nice complements on the sound of it
 
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Reave1
Straight pipe can sound loud, but the result will actually be negative in two ways. First, these motors are designed by ford to have a measurable level of back pressure to help exhaust scavenging which will help fuel economy. Second, the straight pipe will give a more raspy junky sound. Personally speaking if I am paying 35,000 for a truck I don't want people thinking it is a ghetto sled. I reccomend the flowmaster 40series with the resonator and 4" tips. It acts like a megaphone and makes the truck scream. Check my gallery and you will see the profile of the exhaust. trust me it is your best bet. Lastly the horsepower claims may seem valid but open exhaust on a computer controlled truck will actually lose you some horsepower on the bottom end.
The back pressure is maintained by the CATS and taking into consideration the leaning of the fuel mixture, the CPU can more than compensate for that. Sound is a personal preference, and depending on a variety of factors, in some situations (such as my present F150), you would never even know I have no mufflers.....I have even been asked if I'm running magnaflows! The flowmaster series (with the exception of the 2 chamber units) actually create greater flow restriction than the OEM unit.....check out muffler flow test in the net....also that parallels the dyno testing we did with our race cars back in the 90's.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 01:36 PM
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The backpressure related to exhaust scavenging is unrealted to mufflers. It is generated in the manifolds/headers, primarily within the first 20 or so inches. If your running a stock manifold, there is barely a true scavenging (negative) pulse fed back to the port. This is why adding headers makes such a nice and noticable change in power. On a dyno you can realize 40hp at the rear wheels doing nothing but swapping from a cast ex manifold to a header. I have done this a couple times with 460 Ford engines and have seen the before and after results. By removing the muffler you do not change the pulse timing or length in the header or manifold. This is done with primary diameter, length, and collector design. A longer collector will yield you a longer/softer negative pulse, a shorter collector will result in a sharper/shorter negative pulse. There is a lot of science in thermaldynamics and a lot of research information on the net related to headers and why they have the effect that they do. It is not related to mufflers....other than a muffler adds to the overall resistance on the air's exit from the system and can end up being a restrictor of the engines ability to breath. A proper exhaust system with a muffler will hardly be measurable in power change between having the mufflers or not having them. To get to that point you need to have a muffler and pipe diameter that can allow the air fredom to escape without building up pressure. The backpressure your refering to for creating the negative pulse...or "the 5th cycle" of the 4 cycle engine is created in the initial run outside of the exhaust port. 4, 5 or 6 feet back is not relavent to this pulse timing or width.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 01:02 AM
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I already cut off my muffler and fabricatd my own 3" Cat Back exhaust. It's the meanest sounding exhaust that i have heard yet on the F-150.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 07:06 AM
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i got the clips for it however the clips are only from inside the cab on the road and on the highway as well two are standing behind it from start up how do i go about posting them
 
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Hookin' 1963
I put straight pipes on my 04 screw 5.4l and I don't think its too loud at all!!! With four converters how could it be? I had a Flowmaster 40 on my 98 and I think it was louder than my 04. Plus I think I get a better sound at wot than with the Flowmaster. Just my $0.02.
Ditto, replaced my muffler with a piece of pipe. It's not too loud & truck picked up some ET in the 1/4 mile, also gas mileage didn't drop. Got 14 towing race car & trailer on trip from Bay Area to Phoenix & back. My buddy liked the sound so much he did it to his '01 5.4.
 
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