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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 12:51 PM
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If the aircraft is bonded to the refuel truck properly you shouldn't.
How could it not be? AGE guy has to bond the refuel truck to the aircraft and the ground point before he rolls out the hose.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 01:15 PM
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When you insert the nozzle into the filler neck on your truck you are bonding the truck and fuel pump together while the metal nozzle is touching the metal filler tube.
There is a ground conductor in all modern pump hoses.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 01:36 PM
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Right. I just like making sure.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Sponaugle
When you insert the nozzle into the filler neck on your truck you are bonding the truck and fuel pump together while the metal nozzle is touching the metal filler tube.
There is a ground conductor in all modern pump hoses.
exactly right, so there should not be any static zap after that initial contact and having the engine on or off will make no difference at all...
 
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 03:01 PM
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it all depends on situation....


summer its hot and wife and kid in truck i leave it running so they stay cool.
just me i leave it running if its a pump that you can pay at..if i have to leave my truck to go inside to pay i just fuel it shut off.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Sponaugle
When you insert the nozzle into the filler neck on your truck you are bonding the truck and fuel pump together while the metal nozzle is touching the metal filler tube.
But THAT's not the place you want a ZAP to occur, if one is going to.

Better touch that nozzle to the filler door first.

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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 03:42 PM
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if you throw a match into a cup of diesel does it catch on fire?
 
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 04:02 PM
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If you "cup" your hands, and someone pours a quarter cup of fuel into it, and then touches your hand with a lit match, do you get burned?

Why take that chance? For me, it's an inappropriate gamble.

YMMV

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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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Maybe it's a stupid question, but why do you want to leave your engine running while you fuel?

Maybe with the price of diesel, you need to make a fast get-away?

Maybe it's part of the whole diesel superiority complex?

Is it a "Look at me kind" of thing?

I see plenty of big rigs that shut off while fueling.

Sorry, I guess i just don't get it.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 05:22 PM
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Clux,

You must be over thirty. Or forty. ;-)))

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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 06:07 PM
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SORRY IF I OFFENDED YOU
that was not my intent.


hey pop you ever been to florida? i am from norcal so i know what norcal hot is and then there is FLORIDA HOT AND HUMID....
i'm 26 and think i am pretty mature for my age along with a lot of responsibility.
if you had a 2 year old kid in florida i guess you would understand.
Originally Posted by 1997F-350
it all depends on situation....
summer its hot and wife and kid in truck i leave it running so they stay cool.
just me i leave it running if its a pump that you can pay at..if i have to leave my truck to go inside to pay i just fuel it shut off.
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Maybe it's a stupid question, but why do you want to leave your engine running while you fuel?

Maybe with the price of diesel, you need to make a fast get-away? i'm not a thief

Maybe it's part of the whole diesel superiority complex? well we are

Is it a "Look at me kind" of thing? if it was i would have an 06 6oh with 20" BLING BLING

I see plenty of big rigs that shut off while fueling. ME TOO

Sorry, I guess i just don't get it. thats why we are individuals. we are not all programmed the same
 

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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 06:27 PM
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Used to be based out of Lauderdale Executive Airport. Yea, I know humidity and heat! Do I!

And, yea, I'd likely leave the A/C on for the kids in the summer, too. There's two safety factors here that conflict, but the kids always come first.

Of course, a flaming truck with kids inside isn't a pretty picture, either, but if you use your head and drain off any static first, you're not likely to be causing a big safety hazard.

Kids bring on the maturity quickly in those that have been brought up with parents responsible enough to teach it. It's your duty to pass it to the next generation, too.

Goin' to Bremerton? Wow! You're in for a real culture (and climate) shock!!! There's young folks and cool rains in Washington.

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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 06:53 PM
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Gasoline has a flash point of -140 degrees and diesel is around 120 degrees.
Correct me if I am wrong, but flash piont is the temp at which something will ignite. According to this diesel will ignite at a lower temp than gas. Diesel, Kerosene, and Jet fuel all have about the same flash point(all within a couple points) which isn't low enough to be ignited by static electricity. I was told that gasers can't fuel with the engine running because of the static charge that builds when a vehicle moves through the air. That is why fuel tanker trucks have to ground themselves before transfering fuel. I was also told that in newer gas powered cars the fuel pump actually presurizes the tank. There for removing the cap and adding fuel would change the pressure. I don't know if that is true though.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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if you throw a match into a cup of diesel does it catch on fire?
in all seriousness does anybody know? or do i need to experiment.....


i was thinking about trying one of those long lighters that have the little static thingy at the end with a cup of diesel to see if it lights off...definitely dont want to light my truck on fire one of these days at the pump
 

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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by clux

Maybe it's part of the whole diesel superiority complex?
huh...? i don't know what you are talking about since i don't shut off my truck or my wife's car when refueling.... if you are talking about the fact that i prefer a diesel motor in my 1 ton truck so that it can actually do some work... i am sorry but i think of that as an informed decision made by a truck buying consumer... you have to pardon me if i "am a little smarter than the average bear..." but that doesn't mean i have a "diesel superiority complex".... i just like what i have.... and if i want some real attention at a gas station i'll just blow it up since you think of me as just some kind of glory hound..... honestly... i find your comment rather offensive...
 
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