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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 06:38 AM
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IMHOconsumer reports is just as biased toward american named carsas the New York Times is biased against Republicans.

Consumer Reports never met an foreign car they didn't like. LOL.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 09:21 AM
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"Nissan officials acknowledge there were some initial problems with the vehicles produced at its sprawling Canton plant, which opened in 2003, but they point to other surveys showing the reliability of vehicles made there is improving."

when you are at the bottom there is no place to go but up... well they could go away but idjits still buy them i would assume??

on a simular note the lexmark corp given the history of REPEATED and continous problems and even though they claim 'oh yes they DID have a problem(and years of 'what problem') but thats all fixed now' i opted for epson which i found no problems reported besides the common inkjet cartridge problems across all inkjet makers... IOW if its not used regularly they dry out/clog
and after this model i spread the word and am looking at a more modern model
 
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Old Jan 8, 2006 | 08:34 PM
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If you've ever been to the Nissan plant or the Tier 1's that support it this would not be surprising. The workforce is made up mostly of people that make Barney Fife look like a genius level rocket scientest. The facilities still have problems recruiting the skilled trades people necessary to keep everything running even though the place has been in production for a while now. The plant is there because of large state give aways and tax breaks, not because of a quality work force.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 12:17 AM
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wouldnt swear to the subaru thing either. They are in bed with someone. I also read nissan has a chunk of fuji heavy metal. I recall they were gonna start manufacturing an outside car in their plant. Some years ago gm bought 20 percent but Im not sure whos holding the reigns now.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 12:27 AM
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Subaru was recently bought, lock, stock, and barrel, by Toyota.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 12:43 AM
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They only purchased 7-8% (if I recall correctly) of Fuji Heavy Industries
I will find out...
EVEN with Japans wierd management laws, that isn't a controlling interest.

On edit: its 8.7%
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...05/144832.html
 
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 10:05 PM
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I know Chrysler has some ongoings with Hyundai, GM did own part of fuji Heavy industries at one time.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 10:51 PM
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Is the Hyundai (I think) plant near Montgomery, Alabama working yet?
 
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BigF350
They only purchased 7-8% (if I recall correctly) of Fuji Heavy Industries
I will find out...
EVEN with Japans wierd management laws, that isn't a controlling interest.

On edit: its 8.7%
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...05/144832.html
Toyota wound up with more than the 8.7% I bet- there was/is an institutional client snapping up the other 12% GM sent to the open market. 20% should give them controlling interest of the brand- just like 33% put Ford in Mazdas drivers seat.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 11:35 PM
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Until they own at least a third they can't "control" the company. Ford only holds 33.4% in Mazda for a reason
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Management Rights on this page
http://www.nni.nikkei.co.jp/FR/TNKS/...sary/m_01.html

Unfortunately I can't find out who purchased the other 11.3% - and until they release thier 06 Annual report I won't be able too.
Thier website does not provide an updated list of the major stakeholders either...
 

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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 12:11 AM
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I'd be interested too- so would a hedge-fund manager I know.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 09:52 AM
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My only experience with a Nissan was a friends 1995 Altima. She drove like there was a raw egg between her foot and the gas pedal, yet the transmission required a complete rebuild at 40K miles. Now that's Japanese reliability! BTW, I've never bought into the myth of Japanese reliability, and have never owned an imported car. Just AMC's, Mopars, Fords, and Chevies! A non-denominational American car nut!
 
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dmp437
If you've ever been to the Nissan plant or the Tier 1's that support it this would not be surprising. The workforce is made up mostly of people that make Barney Fife look like a genius level rocket scientest. The facilities still have problems recruiting the skilled trades people necessary to keep everything running even though the place has been in production for a while now. The plant is there because of large state give aways and tax breaks, not because of a quality work force.
You got that right. I work for the frame supplier, and at least they haven't mentioned our frames as a problem, yet.

One thought about trucks up until recent years: While some people think that Japanese trucks are (were) more reliable than US counterparts, I always thought that they were so underpowered that they couldn't pull themselves apart like Ford, Chevy, or Dodge; therefore, they never got overworked. Apparently, the new Nissan Armada, Titan and Inifiniti QX56 have enough horsepower that they are pulling themselves apart!
 
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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Good point, until recently all Japanese trucks were little 4's or V6's. No power equals low stress.
 
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