Whatever oil might splash around and possibly get "trapped" inside the pan will drain out.
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From: Earth
Originally Posted by ford390gashog
i really hate that metal pan, most of the time i don't use it and just use gaskets by themselves.
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From: chicago burbs
not by the time you get the intake off to look in there and see that all is well, the valve springs vaporize the oil during operation. the area where the pushrods go through the heads is fairly wide open. that makes 16 oil vaporizors churning away in a contained environment, it gets nasty in there. like 10W30 monsoon without so much wind. the shield was covered with oil and i wiped it off before i took the pic. remember, this turkey pan is no longer the sealed top cover of the valley, the head sides are cut away. it's IN the valley. held in place because it is set between 2 smaller beads of silicone at the end seals instead of one thick bead. the intake manifold is now sealing the top of the engine. if the engine does not vaporize oil on the top end you'll have a sludger. it's the constant flow of the mist that keeps everything clean.
BTW, i'm not so sure the shield is doing all that much in there? since the oil mist can get to the bottom of the intake it can coke up on the exhaust crossover anyway. it prolly won't go back in when the Funnelweb goes on because there is no crossover in the manifold at all anyway.
BTW, i'm not so sure the shield is doing all that much in there? since the oil mist can get to the bottom of the intake it can coke up on the exhaust crossover anyway. it prolly won't go back in when the Funnelweb goes on because there is no crossover in the manifold at all anyway.
Last edited by grclark351; Jan 8, 2006 at 11:39 AM.
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Originally Posted by grclark351
BTW, i'm not so sure the shield is doing all that much in there? since the oil mist can get to the bottom of the intake it can coke up on the exhaust crossover anyway. it prolly won't go back in when the Funnelweb goes on because there is no crossover in the manifold at all anyway.
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From: chicago burbs
i've read several posts from guys that run the racing style gaskets and no shield, they all say they are not seeing any build up what so ever. much to do about nothing? it kept me out of the bars and jail for an afternoon though!
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Tuned
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From: Wichita, KS
Ok, so I am running and edelbrock performer manifold. I dont beleive it has the crossover for the exhaust on it, therefore the bottom of the manifold wont bake the oil on since it wont get that hot, right? and so I really dont need the metal pan? are the holes in the center of the heads the exhaust ports for the stock manifold? are those metal pans notorious for intake leaks? if so I will ripp that sucker outta there.
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From: East Bend, Carolina, U.S
Ok, educate me. I do not understanding the good in modifying the valley pan and then putting holes in it the size of nickles. If the intake used has no exhaust crossover then no oil will get cooked on the underside of the intake and fall into the crankase. On the other hand if there is an exhaust crossover that will cause the oil to get cooked and fall into the crankcase, what good is a valley pan with what looks like someone used a machine gun on it? It obviously will not catch any debris.
So, what am I missing here?
So, what am I missing here?
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Originally Posted by Purely Ford
Ok, educate me. I do not understanding the good in modifying the valley pan and then putting holes in it the size of nickles. If the intake used has no exhaust crossover then no oil will get cooked on the underside of the intake and fall into the crankase. On the other hand if there is an exhaust crossover that will cause the oil to get cooked and fall into the crankcase, what good is a valley pan with what looks like someone used a machine gun on it? It obviously will not catch any debris.
So, what am I missing here?
So, what am I missing here?
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From: East Bend, Carolina, U.S
Originally Posted by Rancheroracer
I have never seen coking on any of the manifolds I have run on my Clevelands. Of course I blocked the heat riser passages if the manifold had them. If your manifold has the heat riser passages & you don't block them, you only need a couple holes to let the oil drain out, otherwise leave it out, no big deal. I wouldn't run one of the metal ones.