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Old Dec 30, 2005 | 02:59 PM
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Hi, can anyone tell me what the GCWR is on my 1984 f150 133 in 351 4x2 the book lists GVWR at 6100. thanks Dave.t
 
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Old Dec 30, 2005 | 03:18 PM
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Forget the rating, what really determines it is your axle ratio and tranny type togehter with engine.
 

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Hi, can anyone tell me what the GCWR is on my 1984 f150 133 in 351 4x2 the book lists GVWR at 6100. thanks Dave.t
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by The SnoMan
Forget the rating, what really determines it is your axle ratio and tranny type togehter with engine.
In reality that is true... and still wrong. You are right that the real towing power(not limit, as that could be determind by brakes, hitch, law etc) is determined by your axle ratio, tranny, and engine.

However NEVER forget your towing rating. It tells you the maximum weight you can tow without being sued when you are hit by an errant Honda. Even if your truck can pull more than it is rated for you are setting yourself up for a ugy liability lawsuit, even if the accident was the other guy's fault. Don't tow over your truck's stated limit. Get a bigger truck.

SnoMan, can you post a link to your page about towing up a grade vs engine power again?
 

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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 04:06 PM
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Here we go again... Please point me to just ONE lawsuit that was filed because someone was over the GCWR published by Ford. I don't even want one that was won, just one that was filed.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 06:53 PM
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Here we go again... Please point me to just ONE lawsuit that was filed because someone was over the GCWR published by Ford. I don't even want one that was won, just one that was filed.
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 11:25 PM
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If it hasn't happened it will. I'll keep under GCWR, so you may go first.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 11:38 PM
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Please see:

HB 4014. It's to increase fines specifically if a truck is over weight.

Also "The plaintiffs were awarded $800,000 for filing a lawsuit over a truck owner's manual towing capacity misprint." http://www.cjac.org/appellateProgram/briefing.cfm

If they'll sue over an accidental misprint do you really think they let you by with gross negligence?
 
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 05:28 AM
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From what I can find HB 4014 deals with Overweight coal trucks already covered by W.V. law.It has NOTHING to do with Fords GCWR for pick up trucks. Was that HB 4014 from another state?

The second link was dealing with court costs in a suit that was thrown out. It dealt with a printer not printing what he contracted to print and the resulting cost to the customer. Nothing about it deals with Fords GCWR for a pick up.

"If they'll sue over an accidental misprint do you really think they let you by with gross negligence?"
I have found nothing that suggests that exceeding Fords GCWR is "gross negligence" in the eyes of the law.
 

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> Please point me to just ONE lawsuit that was filed because someone was over
> the GCWR published by Ford.

I tried and I could not! LOL!

I used about four different searches, eventually I even tossed out "GCWR" and just went with "over weight", all I could find were references to you might be sued. No actually news on the Internet using Yahoo about anyone losing a lawsuit being overweight with a light truck, Chevy, Ford, or otherwise. Now that was interesting :-)
 
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 10:13 AM
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Try Google next time
You won't find anything there either
The auto companies can't make or enforce law.
 
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Originally Posted by Leader
I have found nothing that suggests that exceeding Fords GCWR is "gross negligence" in the eyes of the law.
Negligence is unintentionally causing harm. Gross negligence is knowingly or intentionally causing harm. Knowingly going over your GCWR and then having an accident could easily fall under gross negligence.

A few years ago no one had ever sued because their coffee was too hot either. All I'm saying is it will happen, and I'm not going to be first.
 

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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 10:17 AM
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Hello to all! Is there a way for me to find out what my 1999 f-250's GCWR is rated for? The only rating on the door sticker is the GVWR (which is 8800#).Thanks in advance for anybodys help.
 
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