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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 10:04 PM
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Just Wondered If The 2005/6.0 Have The Black Box That Records Speed,braking,ect During A Accident? IF SO WHERE IS IT LOCATED?
 

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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 10:09 PM
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Hello- Welcome to FTE! I have moved your post to the specialized forum we have here for your question. Check out the list of tech forums we have here. There is a wealth of information and expertise here to help you. There are a number of links in my sig below to help you also. Have fun!
 
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 10:10 PM
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Old Dec 30, 2005 | 04:09 PM
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torque....what forum...where is it?
 
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Old Dec 30, 2005 | 04:24 PM
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It's Under The 6.0 Diesel Forum
 
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Old Dec 30, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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why?

did you get in an accident, and want to cover your ****?












j/k

i hate big brother as much as anyone.


to my knowledge, not all cars on the road have em, a good cross section do. i have never personally heard of them being used in litigation, only speculated...... i have been in the collision repair industry for 15 years, and i have never seen said "black box"... nor have i had a manufacturer, or annyone else ask for one to be removed.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2005 | 09:46 PM
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No Trouble Yet, Just Want To Be One Step Ahead Of Big Brother

F Series Super Duty


2005 Owners Manual
Page 6 & 7
Event Data Recording

Pay Attention To Last Sentance
Other Parties Say (insurance Or Law)

Check It Out Matt
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Old Dec 30, 2005 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by brad mcguire
Just Wondered If The 2005/6.0 Have The Black Box That Records Speed,braking,ect During A Accident? IF SO WHERE IS IT LOCATED?
It's my understanding that if a vehicle has such provisions, it's part of the main computer- this stuff is tracked the same as shift points, mileage, engine hours, etc. Just passing on what I've heard several times............also heard it's usually activated by a "preconditioning" signal to/from the air bag. Certain conditions cause a "pre-arming' of the air bag controller - rapid acceleration/deceleration, etc.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2005 | 10:43 PM
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The RCM, Restraints Control Module, is located on the center tunnel under the instrument panel behind a cover. Communications is through the DLC, data link connector, over the truck's network.

It can create and store DTC's related to the restraint system (seat belts and air bags) for diagnostics, failures, etc. It can also store vehicle crash data.

Frankly I had no idea where it was till you asked; but I just looked this information up in my online subscription service manual at motorcraftservice.com

IIRC there is also reference to it storing crash data in your owners manual. I do know of law enforcement getting the proper authorization and securing information from these devices in fatality crashes in my city.

Bob
 
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http://www.vetronix.com/diagnostics/...icle_list.html

It appears as if the Super Duty Trucks all have the things. Here's a list of which cars have them and which sort of software is needed to retrieve it.
 
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Here is a picture of the module in question and the corresponding pinout of the main harness connector. This module communicates over ISO Bus (9141) which is accessible with most network passthru devices. I will not go into details of this for reasons that don't even need to be stated, but data can be manipulated and/or destroyed...the memory is not protected in any form or fashion.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2005 | 09:07 AM
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Young whipper snappers. I never know what the hell you guys are talking about when you get into this stuff.

You turn it on it's supposed to go. You turn it off, it's supposed to stop. All I know.

Shoot, I don't even use the camera or voice activation on my cell phone .
 
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Old Dec 31, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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Just Wanted To Thank All The Above People For The Information.

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Old Dec 31, 2005 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by kw5413
Young whipper snappers. I never know what the hell you guys are talking about when you get into this stuff.

You turn it on it's supposed to go. You turn it off, it's supposed to stop. All I know.

Shoot, I don't even use the camera or voice activation on my cell phone .
YOUNG WHIPPER SNAPPER JUST TURNED 59
GUESS I AM JUST TRYING TO BRING BACK MY YOUTH
HAPPY NEW YEAR
 
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Originally Posted by PSD 60L Fx4
Here is a picture of the module in question and the corresponding pinout of the main harness connector. This module communicates over ISO Bus (9141) which is accessible with most network passthru devices. I will not go into details of this for reasons that don't even need to be stated, but data can be manipulated and/or destroyed...the memory is not protected in any form or fashion.
I like your signature.
 
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