Frame-off includes what??
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I think I finally got the amition and the time to do a frame off on my 67 F100. What all does this entail?? From what I can see taking the whole body off is a given. Pulling the rear end and springs out from under the frame looks like a wise idea too. What about the front? Do I have to disassemble the front steering assembly, or can that be blasted and painted in place? Oh yea and Im going to undercoat the frame, is there any way to get this stuff in bulk or do I have to get this stuff in those expensive little spray 3-M cans?? I think Stockman or JoWilker might have some ideas on some of these questions.
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I would definitely remove the steering box, front I-beams, and all the steering linkage. After all the work you're gonna go through to do the rest it won't be that much more work to do it right. But I absolutely, under no circumstances, would use undercoating on the frame. I paint mine with frame black paint, but on an older project like this I see a lot of guys on the group here use POR 15 and other products like that. Undercoating is not a very sturdy type finish, and eventually you are going to end up with moisture underneath it. And we know what that leads to. I'm sure someone else will comment on this with a better knowledge of POR15.
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I'd have to agree about not using undercoating. I lifted the box off my old 1985 and cleaned the frame up. I used undercoating and while it looked good for a while, it was a short lived benefit. Everything I hear about this POR-15 stuff has been positive and if you're stripping the frame right down, I think it would definitely be the way to go.
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Nitro, There is no stopping place until the last bolt and rivit are removed, however after you get the sheet metal off, you might say enough, no more. A lot of guys either paint the chassis with a POR 15 type product or powder coat it. Regardless of the route that you choose, plan on at least TWO years to do the project. Any less and you will do a half A job. You will become frustrated and have to stop and take a break sometimes. So make sure you are comitted to doing the job and have a place to store a gazillion parts, label and bag everything, take plenty of pictures, or take the truck to the body shop and have them paint it. 
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Like John says remove everything. Some even take out the big crossmember and chrome plate it. Sand blast or media blast the frame, then coat it with a 50/50 mix of grease and kerosene. Slop it on good! After a day or so wipe off the excess with kerosene soaked rags. Then let that nice brown patina come on (rust). Unless it's a show truck painting the frame is a waste of time, besides old Fords need rust, its part of the mystique! Nothing goes back on unless it has been restored, repaired, or reconditiones to an "as new" condition.
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Nitro,
Something I've learned over the years is, that your truck is pretty much worthless if you can't drive it. Two years is a realistic time period considering most of us aren't rich.
I just did a 1965 Frame last week. We simply stripped the body and drivetrain. Then we got a pressure washer. After soaking the frame in Castrol Super clean, we blasted it with the pressure cleaner. Let it dry and sanded it fairly quickly (8 hours). We then wiped the frame down with OSPHO. Let it dry for 24 Hrs. and brush applied a generous coat of Rustoleum Black enamel. It looked great considering no one will ever see it. We'll get a bit more picky on the Cab but, we're done with the frame and we'll hang the motor this weekend. Don't get hung up on semantics, drive them!
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Something I've learned over the years is, that your truck is pretty much worthless if you can't drive it. Two years is a realistic time period considering most of us aren't rich.
I just did a 1965 Frame last week. We simply stripped the body and drivetrain. Then we got a pressure washer. After soaking the frame in Castrol Super clean, we blasted it with the pressure cleaner. Let it dry and sanded it fairly quickly (8 hours). We then wiped the frame down with OSPHO. Let it dry for 24 Hrs. and brush applied a generous coat of Rustoleum Black enamel. It looked great considering no one will ever see it. We'll get a bit more picky on the Cab but, we're done with the frame and we'll hang the motor this weekend. Don't get hung up on semantics, drive them!
Good Luck, Have Fun,
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WOW, I knew that a frame off was alot of work but I didnt realize that I would need to remove each and every bolt/rivet to do a true frame off. That is alot of work to do but I want a damn nice looking pickup when I get done with all this work. Hmmmm what to do, what to do?? Ill have to think hard on this one. I have about enough money for the engine now and I have friends that work at an auto body shop what said he can pull some strings for me. I guess we will see what happens. Thanks everyone
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See, A lot depends on what you plan to do with the truck. If you plan on going to the local shows a well done paint job will draw a lot of attention. If you plan on going to the big shows and taking trophies the extreem is required.
This I can promise, a decent paint job and some shiney under the hood will draw a crowd. The NCFTO guys will go to a local show and put all of our trucks in a row 8-12 depending on how many show up. There will be a gathering around my truck and mostly it's over chrome valve covers, breather, an Edelbrock carb, red wires, and headers. The rest is meatioker at best. I can't figure what the charm is, because the fender aprons, brake booster and the like have paint scuffed off.
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This I can promise, a decent paint job and some shiney under the hood will draw a crowd. The NCFTO guys will go to a local show and put all of our trucks in a row 8-12 depending on how many show up. There will be a gathering around my truck and mostly it's over chrome valve covers, breather, an Edelbrock carb, red wires, and headers. The rest is meatioker at best. I can't figure what the charm is, because the fender aprons, brake booster and the like have paint scuffed off.
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I was wanting a pickup that I could take to shows around my home area and that would really be an eye grabbing ride. Not to mention a pickup that the women will like too ( Im only 18 so thats still on my mind) Im not really sure If Im ever going to get this put into a Hot Rod magazine or a be at a huge show where a big prize and trophy are at stake. So what do you think would be the best to do?? I plan on this only being a summer vehicle and stored inside with a cover on it when im not driving it. Thanks a bunch jowilker!!
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Tunes, polish, wheels, and little touch up ditties will get you started. I don't think you are ready for a frame off just yet. Drive your truck for a while and get to know it.
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Powdercoating that frame will give a tough, durable, good looking finish. And I don't agree with the statement that "Old Ford's need rust." Like begets like and rust begets rust, and before too long you WALK in the dust!
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