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Old Dec 6, 2005 | 01:17 PM
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newbie with a v10 ????

I am looking to buy a f250 for my daily driving and towing my race trailer to the track (little 16 ft enclosed trailer, no biggie). Was wondering how much of a difference the 2v and 3v motors are? dont want to spend a ton, but i like having nice vehicles with some pep. did the 3v start in 05? if i dont buy lifted, it will get lifted. thoughts anyone? would you spend the extra to get a newer truck with the 3v? here is one i have been looking at, good deal if it is in good shape?
ebayZ4595165902 the v10. give me your thoughts....
 

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Old Dec 6, 2005 | 04:40 PM
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3-valve started in '05.

Nice truck on Ebay - it's a 2-valve. Or should be - how come no under-hood pictures? That's odd.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2005 | 06:36 PM
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they both will do your job.no doubt here about that.the 3v came out in 05 and man does it rock.
as to lifting it if you tow my personal advise is don't lift. your towing will be more stabe down stock..you can take my word about that i tow 7500 lbs to englishtown from time to time. and a 5k boat almost every week end.. wrench and afew others are pulling max out and state they love the truck and will be around shortly to chime in
good luck man. but ebay to me = doombay
 
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Old Dec 6, 2005 | 08:06 PM
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It looks like a nice truck but with 38.5" tires its going to need very deep gears just to pull itself around let alone a trailer of any size.

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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 09:07 AM
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what gears would some of you put on a truck with 38.5's? the trailer is a little 16 foot enlosed that has a craftsman workbench/toolbox combo in the front. only thing it is ever filled with is either 3 dirt bikes or two streetbikes when i head to the track. i didnt think that would be heavy enough for a lift to make much of a difference. i had hauled it with a 95 f150 with a 4inch lift and 33's or my lightning up until now.

the whole ebay thing... yeah scary, haha. but i live close enough that i can go look at the truck and not just bid on it. i just found that one while browsing and was wondering if it was a good price.

thanks for the input guys, i will be calling today to find out what gears are in the truck, i am sure i would have to change them regardless with the 38.5's.

one last thing, what would be the next couple of things you guys would do to wake a v10 up after gears. i dont want to get into supercharger money until the spring......
 
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 09:23 AM
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Most of us always advise agains lifting these trucks because the owner is almost always disapointed with the motor after the lift.

If you lift it high enough to swing 38.5s then I guarntee you will need at least 4.56:1 gears and a larger fuel tank.

Then you will be back here asking abut drive train vibrations... so have a proessional lift done by some one who fully understands the proper way to angle the diff and drop the center bearing carrier
 
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 09:34 AM
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Most of us always advise agains lifting these trucks because the owner is almost always disapointed with the motor after the lift.

If you lift it high enough to swing 38.5s then I guarntee you will need at least 4.56:1 gears and a larger fuel tank.

Then you will be back here asking abut drive train vibrations... so have a proessional lift done by some one who fully understands the proper way to angle the diff and drop the center bearing carrier
yeah, i was thinking at least 4.56's. i believe he said it has an 8 inch superlift. every truck i have owned (other than my lightning) has been lifted, and i agree they can be a hassle. guess i need to try and get over there this weekend to drive it. any of you lifted an f250 8 inches that can give me some things to look for and things you had to change or adjust afterwards????
 
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Nice looking truck. You dont see too many regular cabs that aren't stripped work trucks.

Like Fred said, A lift that big could be a potential problem, if it isn't already. I would bet the gears haven't been changed. I would think 4.88s would be better for those tires. Wheel/axle/hub bearings probably haven't been changed or upgraded.


As for drive line vibrations, re indexing the axle and a custom set of drive shafts ought to cure those probs. If these things haven't been done the truck will not drive very well.

Most trucks that are lifted big don't have these things done since it is an extra $3-4k. That's probably why they get sold, because after the previous owner gets over the newness of the lift the driving experience is not satisfying. One more thing to consider, I don't believe that the computer can be set to correct the speedometer for tire that large.

The price isn't bad but I would ask what shop did the work and contact them to confirm what's been done to the truck.

If you want a lifted truck you may be better off buying a good clean unmodyfied truck then getting/doing the work yourself and making sure it was done right. Often times it's more expensive to go back and correct other peoples problems and mistakes. Good luck.
 
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thanks for that info. i will ask about all of that when i call today. i agree that most lifts arent done right. trying to decide if it would be worth it if i needed to drop another 2 grand into it after buying it...... than price is starting to creep up, kind of killing the appeal of the truck- a lower price than all of the extended cab f250s
 
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 10:22 AM
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Check dealer lots for trade in trucks. The V10s around here have been selling below 20k for low milage late model crew and super cabs. Those prices are beginning to creep back up since gas is creeping back down. The price of deisel has people considering gassers more as well.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JKBrad
Check dealer lots for trade in trucks. The V10s around here have been selling below 20k for low milage late model crew and super cabs. Those prices are beginning to creep back up since gas is creeping back down. The price of deisel has people considering gassers more as well.
i have been looking, but these sd's are pretty popular in the midwest. everyone and their brothers uncles monkey drives trucks around here. so used ones get grabbed up quick. i got ahold of the owner. he didnt seem to know anything about anything, haha. he said....

"I also don't know a whole lot about lifting a truck...I do know that this is a very nice truck, and it drives correctly...I have had lifted trucks where the pinion angle was off and they shimmy when you take off...this truck doesn't do that...it is smooth and solid....I do know that the truck has superlift shocks front and rear, I also believe that the springs are superlift...I can take some pics of the underside and let you be the judge"

now i am praying for clear pics that may somewhat decipher how this thing was set-up..
still looking for opinions on what mods will wake up the v10 after gears? do intakes and exhaust make enough of a difference to warrant the price??
 
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 06:56 PM
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i know they arent the greatest, but here are some pics of the undercarriage of the f250 i am thinking about getting. still havent looked at in person. what do you all think of the pinion angles??? anything else you notice of interest???
not a big fan of the block in back





 
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:26 PM
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That is a decent pic of the infamous Y pipe like my 2002 V10 had. What are we looking for?
 
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:32 PM
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Well, the front is obviously a spring lift, but the back? That's a HUGE block!

Plan on towing/hauling a load? That's a lot of axle wrap ...

Not that that's a reason NOT to buy it, but something to be aware of. Looks like you'll need traction bars on that thing

The front pinion angle doesn't look right, I'm pretty sure my stock '01's is pretty straight ... the CV joint at the other end of the front driveshaft takes care of the steep angle at the transfer case, so the front angle should be perfect. The rear doesn't look straight either, but if the angle at the rear of the transfer case is the same angle, it's OK.
 
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