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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 01:00 AM
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I am getting ready to put some new tires on my 05 Excursion XLT 4X4. The current 265 75 R16 look to undersized. Anybody know how big I can go and still stay stock and not get any rubbing?
 
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 01:23 AM
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i had 285/75/16 on stock wheels. absolutely no rub.. bfg all terrain tires. looks meaner with an aggressive tire that fills the wheel well. 285's are about(if you do the math)32.87" tall. not bad for stock vehicles and no lift......
 
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 09:07 AM
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I also have 285's on my stock 2000 rims. The Bridgestone Dueler AT Revo's are 33" in diameter and look much better in the wheel openings than the stock 265's did. I've had no trouble with the tires rubbing.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 10:10 AM
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Did anyone tell you that you needed Load range E tires? The local discount tire shop tried to tell me I had to have E's. The Ford Dealer said it was OK to put D's on my 05 Limited.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 10:39 AM
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There's been much discussion on the load range of X tires. I think the overall consensus is that D's might do --- but there was a lot of problems with X's running some type of D. In most cases, I think the consensus was that the X is better off with E's considering it's own weight and what people put in it or tow behind it.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 10:43 AM
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Load range E or D depends on what the truck is used for. Load range D are not all the same as Load Range E are not all the same. I put Ds on my X but they are only about 150 lbs less than the stock E which is fine unless you were near max weight before. I do very little towing and tow nothing that weighs much. I bet the 285 D is very close to the 265 E.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 12:10 PM
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OK, I'll show my ignorance. The orig. equip. BFG rugged trail, is rated at 3415lbs@60mph. The 285/75/R16D are rated at 3305@65mph. The truck weights 9K + 4 people + pulling camper(500lb tongue weight) = <11K. Do you take the load rating X 4? Then the orig. equip should be good for 13660lbs, and the 285's should be 13220. Should be OK?

Does wheel width make any difference on weight capacity? With 285's they rec. 7.5" to 9" wheels. Many folks put them on stock wheels (7").

I sure don't want to blow a sidewall pulling the camper at 65 mph on a Friday afternoon in heavy traffic. I might squish somebody!
 
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 12:15 PM
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Well... don't forget that your weight isn't distributed evenly. Also... mind that I said there were problems with some 'D' tires. Also mind that that rating is often at 80lbs or so ... so having an 'E' at a lower pressure may drive better than a 'D' at it's max pressure.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 12:24 PM
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Whoops! I had that wrong, it's 3305@ 65PSI not MPH

They are supposed to have E's coming out Q3. Maybe I'll get some shiny new 8" wheels to go with 'em.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 09:25 PM
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You guys got me thinking. I purchased this beast used a couple of months ago. Perfect shape. It had almost new tires on it. I previously owned a motorhome that had to have load rating E tires on it. I just checked the tires on my X. Low and behold they are load rating C. I checked the owners manual and the door jam trying to find anything that states you have to have E rating tires on the vehicle. I totally agree the vehicle needs E rating tires but either I'm blind or just missed it. Does the owners manual or any literature advise the vehicle has to have E rating tires? It is a diesel so this makes the necessity of having E tires more necessary. Thanks, Jim.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 09:58 PM
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Well... Diesel has nothing to do with it. My parents Golf has passenger tires on it.

But seriously, it comes down to load and safety margin. If a 'C' tire had the require load rating, then you could use it. The door jamb probably has your curb weight. Then you add your fuel, passengers, cargo and tounge weight. You might even stop at a scale and check things out.

Our you could be 'E' load tires and not worry about such things.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2005 | 01:39 AM
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I'm running 305/70/16s on my Excursion with no rubbing at all. No lift.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2005 | 06:12 AM
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C rating tire would be close to 2800lbs each times 4 would be 11200. That is enough for the truck and passengers until you add a average to large trailer. I bet the guy that put the tires on it was not towing much.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2005 | 07:37 AM
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Well... Diesel has nothing to do with it. My parents Golf has passenger tires on it.

But seriously, it comes down to load and safety margin. If a 'C' tire had the require load rating, then you could use it. The door jamb probably has your curb weight. Then you add your fuel, passengers, cargo and tounge weight. You might even stop at a scale and check things out.

Our you could be 'E' load tires and not worry about such things.
The 7.3 is a heavier than the gassers. It uses heavier springs in the front, and the weight is there all the time. I would not reccomend using anything less than a 265E or a 285D on the front of that truck.

Ford had a recall and changed out any X that came with 265D's to 265E's. Tire failure is why.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2005 | 09:08 AM
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Yeah. My 2004 EB X came with BFG Rugged Trail T/A in E. They appear to be a good tire. Probably the best stock tire I've ever had.

I am curious what, if anything needs be done to make 305/70R16 ride correctly --- shouldn't that require at least some alignment changes?
 
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