well ive got a good story on this

a freind of mine has a 03 6.0 w/ 3 chips stacked hey was pulling a trailer and being stupid and basicaly melted it down bent crank/con rods/busted pistons warped the block everything toast he took the chips off and said that the in cab contoller was just to monitor the engine and that there was no chips at all well the dealership bought it and replaced the engine under warrenty no charge to him at all the only greif they gave him was for having a taped manifold for the boost and egt but that was not big enough deal for them not to so the replaced the whole engine w/ an 05 6.0 i was stunned to say the least im sure they could have had an excuse not to anyways i hope u enjoy this story

btw feel free to add ur own if u have any

 

Sounds like your friend got VERY lucky. Dealers are getting more and more strict when it comes to warranty work especially when they see signs of mods.

I mean I also have had friends get new engines from Ford but it usually cost them $200-300 dollars to pay off the service manager....

 

Nothing personal but I have to pull the BS flag on this one....

Number one, on a claim like THAT, a field engineer WILL be sent out to very thoroughly investigate the situation. With such damage, anything- including the monitor- out of the ordinary WILL result in immediate denial of the claim, barring some hanky-panky going on in the situation somewhere between someone- you won't get a claim like that authorized without some serious "connections". The dealer owner or service manager will NOT get to make the decision on any claim that exceeds claim cost factor...and I can assure you, engine replacement breaks the line.

Number two, unless he had multiple fuel boxes plugged into one another, along with a flash programmer, it is impossible to "stack" more than 2 units together. With the timing advance resultant from 3 units together (if you did somehow manage) the truck simply wouldn't crank. By thier nature of operation, the truck simply wouldn't crank or run, much less move a loaded trailer.

Number three- Ford will NOT put an 05 engine in a 2003 truck, period, end of story. If the engine was replaced, it would have been replaced with either a new or rebuilt 2003 hardware engine- putting a 2005 engine in a 2003 model truck would require custom calibration by means of an engineer (the processor strategies are too dissimiliar to happen any other way) Boost and fuel mapping strategies are different, and the truck wouldn't crank without replacing both the PCM and FICM in such an operation.

Number four- I'm going on the assumption that the in-cab monitor was from Edge products, because they comprise about 95% of the "in-cab controller" market. If so, Ford isn't going to buy the story of "it was only used to monitor" because the Attitude won't function without having the Juice module installed on the truck- and I doubt there is a field engineer in the nation that isn't smart enough to know that.

 

It continues to be a pleasure to read your knowledgeable posts.

Thanks Matt.

 

I find it real difficult to read and believe anything manic posts. Good job with the bs flag. You beat me to it.

 

PSD, you beat me too it. I raise the BS flag also. I know there are many dumb people out there, but this is kind of crazy.

 

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All I have to say is Warranty. Not warrenty.

 

HO-HUM
Stories like this should start out like all good old oilfied stories; you ain't going to believe this _ _ _ _. At least you could laugh when you finshed.
wesran

 

ok to those who say its bs i should say that the dealer does alot of buisness w/ these guys the run a dariy and when their fords break they go to this one for the chips i thought it was three it may have been 2 and more likley it was the in cab controller form edge my freind and i only speculated that it might be an 05 and the warranty work was not just done there was a period that they where deciding idk what all was said or looked at in that time but i know that from the time it happened to the time they replaced the engine there was a question about if it was gonna be done or not he was looking at a cummins conversion if it did not go thro so it is not bs i saw the new engine in the truck previously i saw the old engine my freind has pics of the damage it is real they did do it and as i understand it no undertable dealing but then again i didn't have much time to talk to him and havent really thought about that i can ask him sometime

in all it was stacked chips how many idc 2 or 3 it doesn't matter
there was an in cab controller
and they did do the work and replaced the whole engine

belive it if u want i know it happened

 

When you present speculation as fact...BS is called.

The point is, the replacement engine was not and apparently could not be an '05 engine and he was very fortunate to get a replacement engine regardless.

Thanks for the additional information.

 

yes ur right i should have stated origanily that it was speculation in the 05 but on the engine we saw a couple of tags that made us both think it was an 05 and we had at the time no reason to think other wise since we where unaware of any computer changes and figured it could work i can see that what we thought as speculation turned into fact in my head over time

 

I bet your friend will be very happy with You when Ford reads this forum and he gets a big bill from Ford or his dealer.
BS

 

lol even if ford does read this i have not used any names so they won't know who it is it could be alot of people and its not like its a big enough deal to try and chase down

 

That's not an oilfield story, that's the start of a Southern fairy tale!