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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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edit man I hate that the hyper links won't go directly to the site even though this one doesn't compete with any of the sponsers (you can't buy direct from them) but any case when the sponsers link comes up hit the "click here" to go to the site you want button and itwill take you to Yukons catalog.
all you have to do is after you post the response with a link in it, click the link. if it takes you to the famed FTE web page that explains why you were brought there find the 'Click Here' link and right clicj it. then click 'copy link location' or whatever it is. then go back and edit your original link with the link you just copied. it's much easier than i make it sound

Sno... when you start posting proof of your knowledge NO ONE here is going to take you seriously, and dont link back to your own webpage. as far as anyone here is concerned your web page has no credibility! not saying some of the info isn't right but it will be a last resort!

so you might as well quit posting here until you can somewhat redeem your rep! other than that, have a fantastic day

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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ivanribic
I didn't question the ratios you posted. I'm questioning the fact that you insist on a reverse rotation gearset. My point is that there's no such thing.

Sorry Rob, I linked the wrong item. My mistake.
You are cleary wrong here, the do make them for 44 and they are cut for what I can find to all use the same carrier and they just very the thickness of the gear set accordingly. Only Ford and IH used it that I khow of in some instances, not GM, (even though it listst it for GM, prehaps pre 1967) nor Jeep or Dodge that I can tell. The main advantange of a reverse rotation axle and gear set is that you have higher pinion clearance and reduced front drive shaft angles because the pinion is mounted up higher in the axle assembly relative to axle centerline (above it rather than below it).
 
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 03:51 PM
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You are cleary wrong here, the do make them for 44 and they are cut for what I can find to all use the same carrier and they just very the thickness of the gear set accordingly. Only Ford and IH used it that I khow of in some instances, not GM, (even though it listst it for GM, prehaps pre 1967) nor Jeep or Dodge that I can tell. The main advantange of a reverse rotation axle and gear set is that you have higher pinion clearance and reduced front drive shaft angles because the pinion is mounted up higher in the axle assembly relative to axle centerline (above it rather than below it).
then post a website or contact info for some of us here to talk to someone about it. maybe we are interested in gears in D44's!

where are you getting your info? who can we talk to that knows as much as you? not putting you down... just asking b/c i am sure someone here could use the info!

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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by The SnoMan
You are cleary wrong here, the do make them for 44 and they are cut for what I can find to all use the same carrier and they just very the thickness of the gear set accordingly. Only Ford and IH used it that I khow of in some instances, not GM, (even though it listst it for GM, prehaps pre 1967) nor Jeep or Dodge that I can tell. The main advantange of a reverse rotation axle and gear set is that you have higher pinion clearance and reduced front drive shaft angles because the pinion is mounted up higher in the axle assembly relative to axle centerline (above it rather than below it).
where are you getting this the axle is called reverse rotation....it does not spin backwards!!!!

a regular cut gm low pinion front dana 44, and a reverse CUT ford Hp44 spin the SAME direction...not backwards...

you are talking about an axle with reverse cut gears, which are high pinion. We have already explained this 300 times. you are showing your ignorance by comletly missing the point here.....
 
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 04:16 PM
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by The SnoMan
You are cleary wrong here, the do make them for 44 and they are cut for what I can find to all use the same carrier and they just very the thickness of the gear set accordingly. Only Ford and IH used it that I khow of in some instances, not GM, (even though it listst it for GM, prehaps pre 1967) nor Jeep or Dodge that I can tell. The main advantange of a reverse rotation axle and gear set is that you have higher pinion clearance and reduced front drive shaft angles because the pinion is mounted up higher in the axle assembly relative to axle centerline (above it rather than below it).
hey have you looked at what site you are on? that name is FORD truck enthusiast, and you are posting in the offroad forum trying to tell FORD offroad guys about stuff on thier trucks that you obviously have no experience with or knowledge of. First off D44 axles were used in Fords, Jeeps, dodges, chevies, IH, and on some car rearends but the ONLY one that uses the high pinion (you probably didn't even know that was what HP stood for) is Ford, and even the one source you listed yukon gear lists that there is a carrier break so even your own sources counterdict you. I am guessing here that everyone you are aurguing with has seen the insides of more differentials than you have ever even touched. And I personally am ASE certified master tech I know I have messed with more gear sets than yo will ever see. Yes on the standard cut gears they make them thicker for use on the series 3 carrier but not on the reverse cut gears. Your ignorance is starting to become annoying here to the point I beleive you must be a troll from a chebbie site cause your knowledge of Fords really stinks.
Seriously man just give it up, say you made a mistake, learn from it and move on. Don't come in here and try to tell everyone on this site that none of them know a thing cause there is more knowledge on this board than you will ever understand, or possibly know, and probably more than all the books you have ever owned, will own, or will read.
I personally will not go into the paint forum and tell those guys anything about painting a truck cause I don't know squat, and I know it. You don't know squat appearently just don't seem to be able to get it through your thick scull if you have an honest question then ask but other than that drop it except for the apology which I am expecting.
besides you don't even own a 4x4 according to your profile just looking for one.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 04:20 PM
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Again, I'm not questioning your claims of ratios. You are insisting that this axle rotates opposite a "normal" axle (How many times here have you said "reverse rotation"?). Read the first paragraph here, this is regarding a D60 but applies to the D44 also. The final sentance of the first paragraph pretty much sums it all up: http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/Dana60.htm

These are NOT REVERSE ROTATION! Anyone who's worked on one of these axles should know this. You'd need a reverse rotation transfer case to pull it off and I'm still waiting to see one of those.

EDIT I see Jeremy beat me to it.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 05:07 PM
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 05:12 PM
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 10:51 AM
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I know that this probably don't mean nothing, but I just clicked on yukon's website and they do call their gear sets reverse rotation. Is this right or is yukon wrong???

www.yukongear.com
 
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 11:09 AM
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I'm not trying to get somthing going with my last post. I just got a project Cherokee with high pinion dana 44 up front (from a 79 dronco) and I need some gears and want to ordrer the right ones. I don't want to look dumb on here and get "owned" so I'll admit it "I don't know crap about gears and this will be my first install". I don't want to make it harder by getting the wrong gears.
 

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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 01:09 PM
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Wow, I'm not saying that anybody is out on a vendetta or anything, but this is a really old thread and "snoman" just now gave me negative rep for a post in this thread specifically, and called me immature

Pot, meet kettle
 
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 01:15 PM
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 02:34 PM
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I just thought it was kinda funny and pathetic. I'm glad people find me so endearing
 
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 03:34 PM
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