I'm doin' a little research while I wait for the proceeds ($$ ) from my recently sold house to come in.

I want to increase the power on my Excursion to have it better handle the mountains while towing. Normal stuff...no hot-rodding or anything. Remember: I'm a respectable family man! My 4.30s are on the way and will probably be the largest seat of the pants "gain" but I think want a little more.

I'm torn between just a Y-pipe mod, headers w/ a new Y-pipe all the way to a complete system. ALso been toying with the idea of a Supercharger until I told my wife. (Doc said the swelling should go down in a few days...)

So now I'm thinking why don't I just slap a Banks Power Pack on there and be done with it but...

Banks claims:
PowerPack System The stainless-steel PowerPack adds best gains of +56 hp, +67 lb-ft torque, and 7% more miles to the tank-full.

Stinger System Banks Stinger is an economical alternative to the PowerPack, producing rear-wheel gains to +35 hp, +42 lb-ft torque and 5% better mileage.

So what I'm reading is that the headers & Ottomind thingy only add 21hp & 25lb. ft. Is busted knuckles, lots of cussing and 6-8 hours of my life installing the SOB worth it??

How are they claiming those Stinger numbers and they still have that weird-*** Y-pipe on there??? I know you can claim anything but Banks has always seemed reputable to me.

42lb ft is a lot to gain from a muffler, eh?

 

what is that website address. I want to check that out

 

www.getpower.com

And I stand corrected. The Ottomind thingy comes with the Stinger kit.

 

I have the powerpack on my 03' V10. I opted to go with the superchips tuner rather than the ottomind chip. The tuner will also tune the tranny where the banks chip will not. The most noticible change in all rpms is the sound. It really deepend the tone. The most power additions are in the 2500+ rpm range. I can tell you this truck rocks with the powerpack and the SCMT. Also, I only have the 3.73 gears with 285's. If I were to add 4.30's are more preferable 4.56's, it would be one mean machine.

P.S. I was at the local convenience store tonight. I parked and went into the store. A guy game in behind me. We both left together. He drove a dodge hemi and parked next to me. I fired the beast up and he turned and looked. He noticed that V10 sound and looked at the Banks Power badge. He asked me about the Banks kit and I told him about it. Then he said how at work he drives a 5.4l super duty and thaught it was sluggish. He was impressed with my camments on how it livened it up. Then I waved my fingers and said do you see a V8 bagde on that fender? He stopped and looked puzzled. V10 he said, I didnt even know anyone still made them. I replyed oh yes and they did one heck of a job at that. I rolled up the window and off I went.

 

i would get the trans command also if you get the banks power pack!

 

I was thinking about the Gibson Shorties, they not supposed to lose any bottom end torque. Along with a new y-pipe and possibly a FM-70. . . . Anyone out there using the Gibsons? They go for about 600 dollars, probably a lot less than the Banks system.

 

Captain Charlie likes his and he should be around soon to tell us more about them.
They sure are great looking in his gallery.

 

Monsta, your post might be one of those 'grab a stick and beat that hornets nest' questions.

Seriously, If you go into the rv forums those folks with the '10 equipped with the Banks powerpack swear by the gains. I figure those rigs are working for a living and that's a great proving ground. As for me and my '01 Excursion, 3.73's, lifted 3" with 33's, I tow a toy hauler up and down the CA. and Oregon coasts (and a bit east). I'm going with the Banks headers and Y only as I am looking for the added torque increase for pulling hills and to minimise the OD downshifting.
The I-5 Calif. into Oregon has a fairly long and steep pull, the v-10 likes to rev. fairly high but those long steep 2nd gear climbs push the temps. up pretty high.
I know a gear swap will make a huge improvement, yet that's another sales pitch i'd have to make to the wife. Just got her butt out of the Ex's seat and into her own car, now the rig gets to rest in the garage until next trip, life is good!

 

don
i'm here.the custom sct excal2 did the biggest gain, esp after a few dyno pulls to pull a data screen and then a few trys more with the programing. now i'm useing the sct proracer and have some super nice shifts going on. the power is o-boy . if i smash it hard sec gear chrips are easy.
the headers did give a whole wooping 12 hp gain. not bad but not good either. exhaust well to me all it gave me was a different sound that turns some heads and makes the hemi crowd run faster from a run.
to be up front the gear change really lit this bad boy up.
check out my new tech gallery for some veiws.

 

Yeah, me too. Well...I want the same increase and for the same reason. Still undecided on which route to take.

I don't want a piece meal thing. Header from X, Y-pipe from ...er...Y, muffler from Z, etc. etc. Which is why I lean towards Banks...I just need to justify the cost versus real world gains.

My "goal" for power output is 350/475.

 

ken
bone stock with a enrichment problem i had 248 on the ground after the repair i had 268.6. headers from ford racing up to 280. now with even more "really a lot " tuneing work, afe intake intake kit, rear gear change and a prototype trans i have 310 on the ground. thats with a 3 valve .
in the factory tune program there are a lot of variables in fuel and timeing more esp. in the trans. with the torqe reduction programing. start with a good retuneable programer.
the biggest saver over the long run will be the transmission pan as now after a 1 hour had run my fuild temp is only 178 degs.
but with this pan beware it may just need custom exhaust work to get it in. also check the pan with the old gasket. and put it up with out the o-ring seal by useing mopar black or another tanspan sealer. i'm not one for likeing o-rings for this type of seal. also 8 shorter bolts must be put where they are under the front pump " 4" selector shaft "1" and rear addapter for the output end "3"
good luck as the motor responds greatly to retuning. but haveing a 2 valve you still have a option of forced air. something not yet found for a 3 valve

 

captchas, aren't the Ford Racing headers Borla clones and not Gibson clones? Maybe even made by Borla?

 

Captchas, how much additional tuning have you performed on your rig and was it all performed on a dyno?
I've read that the addition of headers will cause a lean condition, is this on initial re-start? How about clearing the comp. after header install, do you think the ecm will re-set to the new conditions?

 

The Banks Power Pack is well worth it. My truck pulls my 36' 5er much better than before and runs cooler doing it. Also, get the transcommand for the 4R100 so it will shift much better. Once you look at the stock manifolds, you will know that headers are worth it on these engines.

 

Monsta:

I am thumbs up on the power chip and thumbs down on the headers. Why do I say that? Please read here. http://www.kennebell.net/techinfo/fo...s-and-suvs.pdf

Read the section dedicate to the V10 Excursion/F350.

I know this will fly in the face of what many others will tell you, but I have been told by other dyno shops the exact same thing.