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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 04:34 PM
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'79 Mustang weighed about 400 lb less if i remember right. It'd be be like dropping off your fat Aunts Myrtle and Gerta at the bakery.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 05:04 PM
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I don't know about weight, but I know 1979 Mustang was longer than 1978 Mustang.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 02:37 PM
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i wonder if ford is gonan do a retro fox-body. it could even have a turbo 2.3l in it.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 03:02 PM
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Well the Mustang GT against the SRT8 version of the Challenger would not be fair but if it is built off a Charger chassis it would be close. The GT is faster than the Charger R/T with the 5.7 liter Hemi buy quite a bit. The Charger is given up 500-600 pounds to the stang. Nice looking though.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 03:41 PM
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I read a lot of these posts without replying, but this time I feel I must give my opinion.

First off, I have noticed that Ford seems to be very successful at redesigning continuously-produced vehicles. The F series trucks, and the Mustang. The Mustang has been brought back to its roots. Looking at the popularity of the old Mustangs, it is easy to see why Ford chose to style the new models after those cars. In other words, 'retro' is 'in'. The art of taking old cars and making them faster and more fuel efficient, and environmentally 'better', is something that rodders and Ford have in common.

I applaud the other makers for trying to re-introduce muscle cars. My problem is when a legendary design is resurrected but has nothing in common with the original car. I heard Ford is going to bring back the 'Fairlane' name, but it is hard to accept that it will be just a family car. Same might happen with Galaxie some day, Falcon, etc.
Mustang wasn't the only car making headlines in the 60's and 70's from Ford. What about Torino Talladegas? Fairlane Thunderbolt? 7 liter Galaxies? These were real race cars, and true muscle cars. I think Ford should be very careful about the names they choose to bring back, because they will have to live with the results. There really should be another offering from the Blue Oval as far as a straight-out performance car, and priced similarly. (they already have a darn fine supercar). I would like to see the Torino come back in GT or Cobra trim, with no family option.

Being that I am a true Ford fan, I really don't get too impressed with other carmakers designs, especially since they are just duplicating what Ford does (not the first time in history) on a regular basis.
I do think the Challenger is a good idea, and it does look good as-is.
Same as the camaro in the link. Camaro has done nothing for me, but if I had to choose, the first three years of production were the only bodies that had any style.
Dodge has brought out some really wild designs over years, and I applaud them for that. Some are just too far out for me to care for, like the Prowler, for instance. But, I think they hit the nail on the head with their old muscle. Bring back the Cuda now that you have a hemi again, guys! (or is that Challenger concept a Cuda in disguise?)

I think Ford needs one more car to bridge the gap between Mustang and Ford GT. Make it a real street terror, with a 500 hp, supercharged 5.4 (already out there), but with less race parts than the GT. There are still people that can claim they raced a Mustang and beat it with their 'whatever-mobile', even though that Mustang might have been a V6 with automatic transmission...

Make this a car that NO ONE can say they raced and beat, unless by a modified Viper, C5, etc. Price it just above an SVT Mustang, but keep one engine in it and a 6 speed manual transmission; no smaller engine options.
Above all, resurrect a name that strikes terror into the hearts of all who come up to it at a stop light. Go ahead, keep production numbers light, but make it the most powerful, driveable car for the least amount of money compared to the competition, and you will have sales.
And I will work my butt off to buy one!
Mark
 
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 03:55 PM
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You mean like a 590 horse V10 Viper-killer sedan? With a 427?
http://www.fast-autos.net/ford/ford427.html

Ford thought it would be better if they castrated it, and put it with the sheep.
so they watered it down with 10 parts of bland, and came up with the Fusion

I hope Chrysler comes out with the Cuda/Challenger with a 425 horse hemi and it boots Ford's **** around the block. Something needs to awaken them to the fact that just coming up with great cars is NOT enough. You have to BUILD them too.
 

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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 04:06 PM
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trinogt-Your Mustang is comming, the GT500.
I agree that when you use a name from the past, such as the Dodge Charger, you have to be careful about the car it is applied to. For example, anyone remember the Mitstubishi Challenger or the Omni Charger? Yuk!! Watered down a great name.
Now, Dodge introduces the new, 4 door, family sedan Charger. Good on rear wheel drive, good with the Hemi, but with 4 doors you're competing with the Japanese 4 door family sedans. And, in that marketplace, American cars just don't cut it anymore, the perception is that the Japanese cars are somehow vastly superior. Most people in the 4 door family car set don't care about Hemi power, most people that want a sporty rear wheel drive American car sure don't want a 4 door. Compare Mustang GT sales with the Hemi Charger, I'm sure the Mustang outsells the Dodge easily. Bring back a retro 2 door hardtop with RWD, a powerful V-8, and some room in the backseat and you'll sell them. The Mustang is a hit, the Challenger will be also. SUVs are yesterdays news, Detroit better look for something new, that the Japanese don't (or in the case of the Mustang or Challenger can't) offer. Look, these are the kind of cars that generate excitement in the showroom and on mainstreet. Nobody runs down to their friend's house to show off their new minivan or Camry, but they sure would in a new Corvette, Mustang GT, or Challenger. Maybe that I'm wrong here, but if GM, Ford and DC can't find a way to get Americans back into their cars, they will become nothing but truck companies, and that market is declining with the demise of the big SUV.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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I hope they build it, it an awsome looking car and I hope they don't base it off of the charger sales. I personally think the charger is butt ugly now that I've seen them on the dealer lots. the challenger looks like twice the car of the charger, the 6.1 would sure make some heads turn and would put mopar back on the boards with an exciting new and revised car.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 09:08 PM
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The earliest it will be released if it goes to production is fall '08 according to the people I talked to at the Dodge dealership. The saleswoman didn't even know what I was talking about and had to get a manager to get on the phone and call around asking questions. However, If it gets a lot of reactions in Jan, it will be out by mid '07.
 
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