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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 11:39 AM
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almost done. 5.8

im almost done building up my 5.8, its a 91' block. and its goin in my 88 bronco witha 5.0. now i just wanna make sure of a few things and clear a few others up. by the way its an aod tranny
Ive heard that u need a new starter? is that true?.. i went to auto zone to get a new ecu/ecm and they tell me that i need the part number not the computer code from my 5.0 since im usin its harness for the new 5.8, is it true that in need that e4te****** whatever code for it to work right with my computer, because i was under the inpression that any computer from a 5.8 between the years 86-93 would work fine. also ive done a few things to the motor like a cam, springs,porting, headers, and pistons that yeild a bit higher compression. will this work with my stock SD? should i get a chip burned. switchin to MAF would be nice but is outta the question right now.

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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 12:54 PM
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You can use a 5.8 PCM with a 5.0 harness. My brother is running an AKC0 PCM (5.8 Lightning mass air PCM) in his 94 F-150 w/5.0 harness and no problems thus far.

And yes, with all of the money you've spend on those parts, I would definately recommend a chip. Is your cam speed density friendly? that will largely determine if a mass air swap is needed.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 01:02 PM
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yea its sd friendly..on a stock motor.. i forgot to mention a valve job too...hes runnin a MAF computer on an sd? or did he swap.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 01:24 PM
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His was already a mass air application. He just plugged the AKC0 pcm in place of his HOG0, and I made a few tuning changes, but if fired right up.

I would strongly suggest you get it tuned once you have it running, though I think the stock 19's are gonna scream for mercy with a combo like that.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 02:10 PM
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lol...yea i plan on gettin bettin injectors after i get back from bootcamp. but they'll work fine for breakin it in. but i guess what ur sayin about the computer is that i can use whatever computer i get aslong as its 5.8l from the same years. correct? there arnt many tuning options for my motor, unless i get a different fuel pressure regulator, and other minor things like timing. i was thinkin about havin jet burn me a chip, i was also lookin at a total efi managment system from F.A.S.T.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 03:39 PM
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you need an ecu from a 5.8/c6 combo. you cant use the e4od/5.8 ecu's because they wont get a signal from the tranny. I dont recall any chips being able to be burned for the bronco type ecu's. your setup should run just fine . if you want mass air cheap go here www.fordfuelinjection.com hes got some cheap harness setups that will work.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 03:40 PM
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i thought all lightnings were speed density until the gen1 series.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 04:31 PM
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All GEN 1's Lightnings (93-95) are speed density from the factory. Ford Racing assmebled/sold a mass air conversion for those trucks. The conversion PCM's will also work on many mid/late 90's mass air, F-series pickups, with E4OD's. I've also read where people have used GEN 1 speed density PCM's on their early/mid 90's speed density pickups with E4OD.

You're right though, I bet it will be hard to find a tuner that can program a chip for that particular type. if it were a newer, mass air bronco, then it would be easier.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 07:53 PM
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my point exactly.. but to convert to mass air right now is out of my budget. ive heard about tweecer tho, according to them i can use a gen1 lightnight setup, and for 4**$ or so dollars i might go that route. they do burnem for my setup. i talked toem and its like almost 400..does anyone here have any experience with tweecer?
 
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 09:35 PM
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If you're going the DIY tuing route, then that's a different story.

MANY GEN 1 L owners use Tweecer with great success. There is a bit of a learning curve though if you've never done any tuning on your own. If you're going to do that, I would suggest investing in a wideband O2 and an in-cab fuel pressure gauge. It's a little more up front, but you'd just be tuning in the dark without them.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 01:06 PM
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yea.. ive thought about that, what about an ajustable fuel regulator? where should i look for literature on that?
 
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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ive decided to just get a computer and have a chip burned, but now my problem is, is that theres like 10 different computers available for the 88 5.8l from autozone, and i dont have a clue as to what the computer in the donor f250 was and i cant get it, can i just pick one. and the prices vary between 94-168$ so what should i do?
 
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 05:37 PM
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and on another note...should i keep the egr? cause im not realy planning on it but ive heard there are negative effects to not having it.
 
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