Mods for running Bio
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From: Paradise Found!
Originally Posted by chadjones99
so you let yours sit for 6 weeks ? wow thats a while, i guess if i start making more than i can use, then i would be able to let it settle out.
do you always or have you always let it settle that long ?
thanks for the info
chad
do you always or have you always let it settle that long ?
thanks for the info
chad
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It's a know fact that if you have been using #2 for years a sludge builds up in the bottom of the tank. Doesn't bother anything. but you add the bio it cleans your system thus giving you a plugged filter. But once you get past this cleanout - it is great.
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fabmandelux,thanks for your reply.Yes it is on line AP Wire 12/30/05 Some saw biodiesel problems comming.The more I read in this thread the more I think it was sludge in the fuel tanks. Thanks again Larry
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methanol DOES dry and crack ALL Rubber seals, matter of fact ALL alcohol dries and cracks rubber.
Washing & drying are good ideas as they will remove any residual water / methanol.
Ford will deny a warrenty repair if they find alcohol in the fuel system of the newer trucks. The high pressure injectors will form high pressure steam if water is allowed to come into them, and alcohol is hydroscopic, bonding water molecules to it easily. High pressure steam is one of the most corosive things known to man and will tear an injjector apart in short order.
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water boiling or steaming
question, and i can be wrong.. but the water should seperate and the water infuel lite should come on right ? also water at a vacuum boils...and makes steam sooner, water under pressure would not turn to steam , unless much higher temp than 212 deg (sea level boiling point), so the fuel going into your injectors is not that hot.. if it was i could run straight veg oil with out converting it.(150+ needed for that)
so please check my thinking...thanks
chad
so please check my thinking...thanks
chad
Last edited by chadjones99; Jan 12, 2006 at 05:57 PM. Reason: spelling
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From: Medford, Oregon
Originally Posted by chadjones99
question, and i can be wrong.. but the water should seperate and the water infuel lite should come on right ? also water at a vacuum boils...and makes steam sooner, water under pressure would not turn to steam , unless much higher temp than 212 deg (sea level boiling point), so the fuel going into your injectors is not that hot.. if it was i could run straight veg oil with out converting it.(150+ needed for that)
so please check my thinking...thanks
chad
so please check my thinking...thanks
chad
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wash the vacuum
another question, if i build a tank that can handle a vacuum.. if i put my washed fuel into it, and pull a vacuum (like they do when they dry you ac system after repairs) will the vacuum pump pull out the water , out of the oil ???
i can run a small vacuum pump pretty cheap..cheaper that heating it ??
i can run a small vacuum pump pretty cheap..cheaper that heating it ??
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From: Medford, Oregon
Originally Posted by chadjones99
another question, if i build a tank that can handle a vacuum.. if i put my washed fuel into it, and pull a vacuum (like they do when they dry you ac system after repairs) will the vacuum pump pull out the water , out of the oil ???
i can run a small vacuum pump pretty cheap..cheaper that heating it ??
i can run a small vacuum pump pretty cheap..cheaper that heating it ??
Ahhh, hmmm, I just reread your post - you're thinking that the vacuum might "boil off" the water? Only problem I see is that the water will settle at the bottom. How are you going to pull the vacuum w/out getting oil in the pump?
Heating the oil allows the water to vaporize off the top.
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vacuum to dry fuel
ok, just a little back ground..I do this for a living with nuclear fuel...that being said , I have never tried to boil off water that is below oil...so that is what I was thinking...if the vacuum pump suction is at the top ,above the oil/water it will only pull of water vapors...but will the lower pressure pull the water through the oil layer ???? I don't know but if it does , you can buy a small vac pump from harbor freight cheap. and use's very little electricity
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From: Paradise Found!
Originally Posted by OMCUSNR
I think you'd be better off charging the tank w/ dry nitrogen, like they do with optical instruments. Purge it till you get the air out, and pressurize to about 1.5 to 2 psig (2 psi over atmosphere).
Ahhh, hmmm, I just reread your post - you're thinking that the vacuum might "boil off" the water? Only problem I see is that the water will settle at the bottom. How are you going to pull the vacuum w/out getting oil in the pump?
Heating the oil allows the water to vaporize off the top.
Ahhh, hmmm, I just reread your post - you're thinking that the vacuum might "boil off" the water? Only problem I see is that the water will settle at the bottom. How are you going to pull the vacuum w/out getting oil in the pump?
Heating the oil allows the water to vaporize off the top.
vac not heat
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From: Paradise Found!
Originally Posted by chadjones99
ok please explain how it works... you vacuum pump pulls off the methanol or leaves it ?
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From: Paradise Found!
Originally Posted by chadjones99
so the vaper goes through the vac pump, then to the condenser?