Hey all another question about my broncos sound system (I should say possible sound system) I've got an 88 that I have stripped down the interior completely. I mean everything except the seats and the dash. No carpet, no panels, no headliner, etc...

Sorry about the long post (I wrote this after I read the whole post) but I really wanted to get the woofer info in one post so I didn't have to keep going over what the install would be.

I hope to install the woofers in an area that maximize the sound quality and minimize the lost space. I've considered areas but I'm not sure whats going to work best. The first is obvious behind the rear seat. That has two drawbacks for me. The first is I am a contractor and use the truck to carry materials occasionally, the second is I don't like the idea of it being so visible with the theft out here.

The next is in the diamond plate panels I am replacing the stock rear panels with. The downside of this is I was hoping to store a few tools on one side and the amps on the other.

The next is on the rear floor. The two downsides are that it is a tripping and entry hazard and it may not be comfortable to sit with your feet raised.

The other two are under the center console, which obviously limits airspace and size of the speaker. The second was going with bass tube or tubes and making a lock I could remove them when I need space.

So the questions are do any of these sound reasonable or like anything you've seen. Do you have any suggestions on tube vs. box If box is there a formula for the amount of airspace needed a clearance of the magnets and in front of the speaker itself.

Man I'm out of words now, that was everythought in my head.

Thanks

Mike

 

Wow lots of questions.

Ok first off.. how many, what size, how much power?

2nd.. are you planning on using the rear seats?

3rd.. this could turn into another flamefest with the tube vs box. Personally, I like box.. there was a huge flame war in here a few months ago over this topic. If you want I'll give you the link.

4th.. For the formula, it depends on what sub you get. Each sub has their own requirements for air space, and I also need to know if you want ported or sealed.

5th.. I just wanted to put a number 5..

 

Sure I'll read a flame war. It seems like I spend half my time on the internet boards reading flame wars.

I dont' have speakers picked out. I don't have sizes picked out. I guess I'm not that far yet. I don't know how much power yet either. I don't want to rattle windows as I drive down the block. I want balanced, clean, bass thats loud but not ridiculous.

I listen to every music there is.

Thanks

mike

 

Brands to consider: JL Audio, Eclipse for subs. The Eclipse titaniums are expensive but extremely well made, IMO they're better than the W6's and W7's made by JL Audio. JL Audio does have a really good sub for a decent price though, the W3's. This really just depends on what you want.

I like 12" subs because they make it where you feel the bass. 10"s can do it as well, but a 10" is going to be more of the sound of bass, with a little bit of feeling. 8" subs are going to be even less feel, more sound. But they'll still sound good.

Actually, right now I'm running one 10" Eclipse sub (rated at 250wRMS). It's older and I got it and an amp for $49 on eBay.. worth so much more though. It hits harder than my 12" Audiobahn which is rated 650wRMS w/ 91.56 dB sensitivity. I don't know the sensitivity of the 10", but it sounds awesome and hits hard.

 

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...d.php?t=274110

My views have changed since then though. Used to I was all about hitting hard and SPL. Now it's SQ then SPL. But still, the tube (Bazooka) doesn't sound good.

 

Jerome you're over my head there buddy. I'm researching now and still kind of overwhelmed. SPL and SQ?

Bazooka doesn't sound good now that I understand.

Thanks I'll get back to you when I'm a little more prepared for this. If you could point me in the right direction for research and a little vocab lesson.

Mike

 

SPL = Sound Pressure Level, usually measured in decibles (dB). This is basically the loudness of the bass inside the cab of the vehicle.

SQ = Sound Quality, the clearer the sound. This really has to deal with the acoustics of the vehicle as well as quality of components.

 

You could, if you are just that good, make a box to hold an 8", 10", or 12" or two of any of them and built it out of the back seat. Kinda confusing: At the rear seat, go straight out from the back a few inches and come straight down, just enough room to fit them in there and give them enough air. Face them into the seats if you are afraid of theft concerns, cover it in standard automotive carpet so it blends. Voila, you have your hidden sub box. Mine is hidden behind my seat in my 94 Ranger so it's impossible to see normally.

 

Yeah well that was the original plan except I can't lower the seat to carry plywood or other large objects.

Its a good idea and something I've been thinking about.

Oh by the way I am good. I've even thought about hinging it in the opposite direction.

Thanks

Mike

 

Back seat usable?

 

well you really could do alot of things here. There is a lot of unused space in a vehicle trust me. Really what it comes down to is how much u want to spend how creative you are and how much time you want to put into it. Ive seen sub boxes mounted to the room and it looked really good and was out of the way. You can depending on size of sub install it under seats in the dash. You could put it in the side panels in the back and have a sealed box and then you could put a protective cover over it. I could give you alot more ideas, i just need to know what kind of subs u wanna run and how big they are and how many watts they are.

Don

 

I have a friend who brought his 93 Explorer to us in Autoshop and asked us to make a box for the sub that was way out of the way. It was one of those JL shallow-mount subs I believe, we pulled the headliner, built a box that mounted to the roof and blended in without any noticeable affects, and make a countersunk mount for the sub, then put the headliner back on. With the exception of the roof being lower towards the back of the vehicle, you can't tell a difference, and the sub is completely invisible. We made it easy to remove the headliner though, just in case he had problems with it. Beautiful installation, made me proud.