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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 03:29 PM
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Take a look at some of the camrys or accords that die well before that. After you look at those, look at some of the American RWD cars that have the same amount of miles.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 03:31 PM
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I wasn't saying that they are more reliable than a US RWD car.
I was just pointing out that RWD isn't any more reliable than FWD.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 05:57 PM
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Could it be that FWD is more effcient? The Impala is rated to get 28 miles to the gallon.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 06:11 PM
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I'd say in general a FWD is probably more efficient. There is less rotating mass, since there isn't a long driveshaft. You also don't have a rotational direction change (read: frictional losses) with a differential.

Part of the reason for the good mileage in an Impala is that the engine runs on only 4 cylinders when cruising.

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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 07:25 PM
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FWD is more efficient because they have smaller motors and are tuned to be fuel efficient. Take the Miata for example, with its little 4 banger, it gets great mileage. The 2006 Miata is supposed to get 24 in the city, and 30 on the highway. Its like comaring apples to oranges here, since most RWD cars have larger motors, and most FWD cars have smaller motors. Granted, there is always an exception, but its hard to compare the two.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FRECSF
Could it be that FWD is more effcient? The Impala is rated to get 28 miles to the gallon.
Almost anything with GMs 3800 engine will get near 30 MPH. I have an old 93 Buick Park Avenue with 171,000 miles on it that will break 30. My Town Car with a 4.6 V8 is rated and will get 25 MPH on the highway (and it is RWD). The Crown Vic and Grand Marquis will do the same as they have the same powertrain. They will do a litttle better than my V6 Escape and way better than my F150 4X4 with a 5.4 (of course my town Car weighs 1,100 lbs. less than my regular cab F150)
 
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 08:54 PM
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As per usual, BigF350 is right- Zeta wasn't cancelled..... just transferred to his neck of the woods. I'd bet he's even talked to a person or two involved in the development process. Yes, there will be a RWD Impala in the next generation, although the current car works surprisingly well with it's 5.3. Oddly (or maybe not), the 9C1 police Impala is equipped with the 3.9 V6, not the 5.3.

edit: the primary purpose of FWD is packaging. Putting everything mechanical under the hood, instead of spreading it out across the whole chassis, leaves more room for people 'n stuff.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 10:10 PM
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Chevy has the new Impala SS outfitted with the 303hp. 5.3 V8. But they kept it front drive! This is not the way to compete with Ford or even Dodge these days. Do you think that the new Impala will eventually go rwd, or will it sell well in it's fwd format?
FWD is the way all of the American auto manufacturers have been going for decades.

The reason Dodge or Chrysler division has any RWD cars is because of their partnership with Mercedes Benz. Back when Lido took over, he cleaned house. The only reason RWD cars were kept was for police and special service packages.

Not including the Mustang, I believe Ford only has only one platform for RWD and it’s the Crown Vic./Mercury Marquis car. Ford has kept this in place and has sold a lot of special service package cars.

For the Impala to go RWD, it would be best for GM to do what they did with the current GTO. They would import a large RWD car or borrow a platform from one of their European cohorts like Opel.

Granted that GM did have the first FWD car (1966 Oldmobile Toranado) since the 1930's Cord, but all of their current production cars are FWD but maybe the Corvette and imported GTO.

RWD works great unless you drive in the snow-belt.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 10:23 PM
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RWD works just fine in the snow. You just have to know how to drive, thats all. Everybody has been conditioned to believe that RWD in the snow is absolutely terrible. If you have good tires, some weight in the back, and a light foot it will be just fine. Gee, I wonder how everybody got around when all they had was RWD.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by polarbear
As per usual, BigF350 is right- Zeta wasn't cancelled..... just transferred to his neck of the woods. I'd bet he's even talked to a person or two involved in the development process.
He might have even driven a couple of them...
And again, spot on with the packaging bit. (also FWD is lighter as well)
Originally Posted by Flexfuel-Dave
Not including the Mustang, I believe Ford only has only one platform for RWD and it’s the Crown Vic./Mercury Marquis car. Ford has kept this in place and has sold a lot of special service package cars.
The Chrysler 300C...
There are only 3 countries that make cheap large RWD sedans.
Mine(Falcon, Commodore), Canada (300C) and yours (Crown Vic).
Sad really.
For the Impala to go RWD, it would be best for GM to do what they did with the current GTO. They would import a large RWD car or borrow a platform from one of their European cohorts like Opel.
Opel (or Vauxhall) doesn't have a RWD sedan in its portfolio. Not since the mid-late nineties.
The Vectra is thier biggest car.

If you want a RWD GM car (outside of the Corvette) they are only designed, engineered and manufactured in one place.
Here.
Originally Posted by mistercmk
If you have good tires, some weight in the back, and a light foot it will be just fine
Thats good for some
 

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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 10:49 PM
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pssst- and one other brand.

"been a long time since I rock 'n rolled...." Cadillac.

Soon to be joined by the Buick Lucerne.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 10:50 PM
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I forgot that...
They don't fit in the "cheap" category though.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 10:55 PM
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Yeah, yeah....but a CTS starts at just over $30K, which isn't bad if you can stay away from the extra fluff 'n stuff. I'm really taken by the little BTS being introduced in Europe. I'd still like Cadillac to sprinkle some of that pixie dust on the rest of the GM line. I'm told the new Escalade is a knockout.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by farmtwuck
Why fwd? Well obviously for funky burnouts and even cooler "J" turns! I'd like to drive one and see how well they handle the "torque-steer" on those critters.

Seriously though, don't know the answer. I see quite a few Impalas around with municipal police departments but I don't think you'll see them with the Highway Patrol. That lack of rwd is probably why.

FWD isn't all bad though; in foul weather I'll take the fwd car over the rwd car any day.

That said, I'll never have another car that isn't AWD. Hello, Subaru?...
I can't believe how the auto industry had brainwashed the public into the "FWD is better" In the snow, unless you are going dead straight and level, FWD is not better...can you say Corkscrew....I love to watch the FWDers corkscrew themselves into the curb while turning or climbing a hill. There is no substitue for skill. RWD is the only way to go!
 
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott S
I can't believe how the auto industry had brainwashed the public into the "FWD is better" In the snow, unless you are going dead straight and level, FWD is not better...can you say Corkscrew....I love to watch the FWDers corkscrew themselves into the curb while turning or climbing a hill. There is no substitue for skill. RWD is the only way to go!
FWD is better in the snow if you don't know how to drive. After a good snow or ice storm, the ditches are full of pretty shiny 4X4 SUVs or FWD vehicles. You don't see many RWDs in the ditches because the owners know how to drive them or they stay at home (it's both with most of us old fogies). Anyway, most RWDs are the larger higher end vehicles that have traction control that gives you the advantage of RWD handling with the traction of FWD.
 

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