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I think I heard somewhere that you need to have flame radius arms to use them. Not sure where I heard it though.
Last time looked they were WAY overpriced but I guess it all depends on how much $$ you got to blow. Downsides as I've read is that steering is tough and they put a fair amount of stress on front end components. I don't know that it's any more stress than 44's.
I live in the town right next to where they are made. If you have the money, and don't want to get stuck, they would be sweet. But, for the average joe, they are a bit pricey. I believe they sell a lot to the military and specialized areas such as mountain rescue personel. They also make tracks for ATV's which would be nice to have. I've considered buying a snowmobile, but for about the same price I could get the tracks for my wheeler. From what I've seen, they are about impossible to get stuck with.
JEV
Jev, how are they in deep mud? The spread out track would probably help float you okay but I just can't see them doing to well in mud. I've seen vids through water and puddle but I'm curious how they'd do it sloppy sticky mud.
The ATV's that I've seen runnin them in deep muck, get stuck. It takes a ton of power to turn those things.
The last time I saw them was an ATV bogg in Upstate NY. I blasted though on the Grizz no prob, as did most other guys with built bikes. Guy pulls up on a Polaris 700 Twin with the tracks and smokes the belt trying toturn them in the mud.
To be honest, I'm not sure how they perform in deep mud. I know the tracks add a lot of flotation, but you still need the power to turn them. I would think if your in mud that has no bottom your going to be in some trouble tracks or no tracks. As for tracks on an ATV, I'd probably only use them in the winter. I do a lot of ice fishing and an ATV is about worthless once the snow gets so deep on the lake. A tracked ATV would get me out there no problem.
JEV
I do know that my local ski hill has these on an Excursion and an F150. For hauling gear, those are a lot cheaper than a snowcat. No idea how they handle in sloppy mud.
If you have the power to turn them suckers i think they'd do fairly well in the mud, like on the farm you can get tractors with tracks (basically the same thing as the matt tracs only bigger) and the local huterite colony has 4 of them and they said they do quite well, and in the rocks they wouldn't do to bad do to the large contact patch, but the odd angled rocks would be an issue to pop up and over with the things though.
seventyseven250, is that at COP they have the excusion/f150 at, or is it sunshine?
The problem I see with the mud is they don't really have any tread depth. The little tread they do have is so close together it would pack up and because you don't have centrifugal force like with a rotating tire it would be hard to throw the mud out of them anyway. Now if they had bit lugs like tanks and cats do I'd imagine they'd do better.
don't forget the sharper angles they have at the corners is going to fling the mud off pretty good as the tread is going to open up decently at that point as well.
I googled the companies website for the heck of it. After seeing them on show trucks I thought they were pretty dumb. But there are some videos on the site that made them look pretty good in all types of terrain. I dont know how much I would trust the companies own videos but you never know.
Those vids they have show some them doing pretty well in the mud. I'd like to see a comparable truck on tires next to or behind it to have some comparisson because you really can't tell how deep it is but they look like they move around well. The weight of those things is pretty insane, 400+ pounds each.
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