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Oct 30, 2005 | 12:37 PM

HT32BSX115

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steering box placement

Howdy all,

Has anyone changed the location of their steering box to accomodate an engine that would otherwise interfere with the current location of the steering box/column?

I'm thinking about many engine choices and possibly using a much newer hydraulically assisted steering box that I would mount in a different place so as to not run into left manifolds, oil filters, etc.

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Rick

Oct 30, 2005 | 01:47 PM

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I used different headers to clear toyota box stock manifold was not even close.

Oct 30, 2005 | 04:05 PM

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Thanks!

I guess I should be much more specific. I'm planning to find a steering box that would be appropriate for an F-600/650/700 size truck. I have looked at a few later model trucks and it appears that they might use something that could work on an older truck. I'm sure I'll have to use little universal joints and maybe a later model steering column.

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I used different headers to clear toyota box stock manifold was not even close.

Oct 31, 2005 | 08:24 AM

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Might want to check state laws, alot of states do not allow the use of hydraulically assisted steering box. if i am thinking the same as you on what you are calling hydraulically assisted. i am thinking about like what we use on tractors where there is no linkage going to a steering box, the steering wheel goes into a valve that is hooked to the steering box via hoses.

Oct 31, 2005 | 08:59 AM

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There are specific steering geometry reasons for the location of steering boxes. Moving them for clearance reasons without redesigning the geometry can have severe negative affects on the drivability of the vehicle ranging from "drunken monkey" to completely undrivable.

Oct 31, 2005 | 12:56 PM

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That's correct, analysing the F100 steering geometry: The steering box is directly over the spring mount the pitman arm lines up with the spring mount as well. The pitman arm is vertical when wheels are straight ahead, the drag link is horizontal and parallel with frame. All adds up to minimize wheels turning (unwanted steering inputs due to components moving in an arc) with suspension movement.

Oct 31, 2005 | 12:58 PM

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Thanks for that info!

I will definitly take that into consideration when I select the steering box. I am hoping that I'll be able to just place the steering box in the same relative position on the outside of the frame rail(there seems to be adequate room there now!). The most important steering geometry consideration is probably the requirement that suspension travel will not cause steering movement.

I sure don't want any alcoholic monkeys riding with me!

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