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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 08:45 PM
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I am going to change my exhaust system. Should I use a 3.5 DP to 4" exhaust or should I use a 4' DP? I have heard thet you can lose some low end torque going to a 4" DP. I have a 2000 F350 CC 4x4 Ford AIS intake, Diablo Predator set on 60HP. Any Ideas would help. Thanks

 
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 09:27 PM
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here is the general rule of thumb regarding downpipes and exhaust sizes. the smaller downpipe you have (stock is 3'',minimum), the more lowend power you will have. but you lose the ability for high-speed flow. i have a 4'' system from turbo back, and the .5'' size in downpipe is negligible, and doesnt really matter IMHO. i would just go 4'' downpipe, there is no rubbing issues with MBRP. it doesnt even get close.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 12:29 AM
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Thanks for the info.

 
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 08:39 AM
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I didn't lose any low end grunt at all with my 4" DP. I don't understand where this idea comes from with a turbocharged engine. It already has a lot of backpressure from the turbo.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 11:06 AM
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It already has a lot of backpressure from the turbo.
Exactly correct. Been involved in too many turbo/backpressure conversations. It's also why turbo vehicles can run with no muffler and still not make the police bat an eye.

A bigger DP flows soo much better that the driver doesn't realize (at first) that the foot doen't have to go down as far to get the vehicle to go. Most people drive the same after the upgrade. 1/2 throttle to 35 mph = 1/4 throttle to 35 mph with bigger pipes. At least that has been my experience (lots of math).
 
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 12:27 AM
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I just got my exhaust in the mail today, 4" from the turbo back. Hope to have a chance to install it at work this week.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by orng1
I just got my exhaust in the mail today, 4" from the turbo back. Hope to have a chance to install it at work this week.
Have fun, three pieces of advice,
#1 - lots of PB blaster on the downpipe to turbo clamp to get that bad boy loose.
#2 - a sawzall with long metal blades for removal of old system.
#3 - a extra set of hands to help with the new downpipe installation.

good luck.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Ponyboychris
Have fun, three pieces of advice,
#1 - lots of PB blaster on the downpipe to turbo clamp to get that bad boy loose.
#2 - a sawzall with long metal blades for removal of old system.
#3 - a extra set of hands to help with the new downpipe installation.

good luck.
I didn't need the pb blaster for mine since it came right off but I'll second the extra hands for the down pipe installation. One on the ground and one up top and it goes right in with no problems, try it by yourself and it takes alot more time. Have fun, I love my MBRP system.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 03:31 PM
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I didn't have the extra set of hands and had to get real creative on the downpipe install.
 
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My clamp loostened up but the down pipe was "fused" to the clamp and to the turbo. I stuck a gunner into the end of the cut off downpipe and few "wiggles" and she popped free. Remember to put some high temp never seize on the downpipe turbo connection, and place the clamp in a spot that will make it easier for you to remove if needed in the future.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Ponyboychris
Have fun, three pieces of advice,
#1 - lots of PB blaster on the downpipe to turbo clamp to get that bad boy loose.
#2 - a sawzall with long metal blades for removal of old system.
#3 - a extra set of hands to help with the new downpipe installation.

good luck.

Thanks, I guess I'll have to take a saw zall to work. I have the extra set of hands and I sprayed the dowpipe with PB last week in preperation. Can I do this on the ground or do I need a lift. I figure and hope I can do it with just a jack. Hope it's a little slow at work tomorrow. Just finishing up a job and don't have anything else scheduled. The clamps always stick on these style of turbos, I've learned how to get the clamp already.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 04:53 AM
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You can do it on the ground, but if you do have access to a lift, it does make life much easier.
 
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Thanks, I'll have to take it to my buddie's shop. He has a lift there. I just took in two big jobs today so won't have any free time until late next week. I was hoping to have had a chance to install it today.
 
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Originally Posted by orng1
Thanks, I guess I'll have to take a saw zall to work. I have the extra set of hands and I sprayed the dowpipe with PB last week in preperation. Can I do this on the ground or do I need a lift. I figure and hope I can do it with just a jack. Hope it's a little slow at work tomorrow. Just finishing up a job and don't have anything else scheduled. The clamps always stick on these style of turbos, I've learned how to get the clamp already.
I did it in my driveway but I have a 4x4 so a little more clearance than a 4x2 if you have one. The whole job took me about 3-4 hours by myself but I took my time. A lift would be the ticket. Make sure to install the entire system before you tighten any clamps. I put a piece of wood on the transfercase skid plate to keep the pipe from resting on it. It helped with aligning the rest of the system. It was actually a very easy install.
 
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