maticuno i think you "stole" it for that price. 9's are easier on the wallet, forearms & wrists, & good to learn the basics of auto loads. plus you won't get the "jerks" from starting w/ the big .45 loads

 

He did. And at a Police sale too! "joking"

 

I thought this too and carried a 40 cal for several years. A few months back I bought a 45 and now I think I'd have a really hard time going back to a 40 cal. .05 difference doesn't seem like much but it is, and especially when you're firing 230 grain rounds.

 

good gun. For 9mm, I prefer the Beretta or Taurus clone which holds 15 shots. Great plinking guns, the 9mm, in my opinion.

For actual protection, I favor the .45. There's just something comforting about shooting and holding a .45

And, for everyday fun shooting, a Ruger .22 bull barrel is my choice.

Congratulations and happy shooting.

 

9mm's aren't that bad. I mean they can really tick a bear off if they charge you and if you're lucky you may even get all 15 shots off.

I have a Springfield XD in 9mm and also a vaquero in .45 Colt, lots of difference in whoop-butt there, I really want a 1911 in .45 too!

 

I have fired Colt commanders and Springfields that shot very well and never jammed and such . But the 1911's that we carried in Germany in the late 70's made better hammers than guns. I don't think there was one in the whole company that would actually shoot as a semi auto.

Ken

 

I prefer the 10mm. Practically all I shoot, save for my 38 super and my TC Contender in 221 Remington Fireball

 

Wouldn't that be like a baseball pitcher practicing with a tennis ball or a softball? I bought a box of UMC .45 rounds once because they were cheap. I could feel the variance in loading from round to round. One would feel like a .45, the next a 9mm, the next a .40, etc. You can't learn accuracy when shooting with inconsistent (cheap) loads. If you're going to carry one for protection, you should practice with the ammo you're going to carry with. You should also at least shoot once in a while WITHOUT HEARING PROTECTION. I can't stress this enough. No, it's not good for you, but if you only shoot with hearing protection, the first time you do without (such as in an emergency), the surprise/percussive force of your shots can completely disorient you.

Jason
Colt M1991 Commander owner

 

Absolutely not. Your analogy would be better suited for describing someone that practices with a 9mm and then carries a .44 magnum for protection. The Wolf rounds are not that different in accuracy and actually have more of a kick than the carry ammo I have. Unfortunately they are ball ammo. Not a type I would use as a defensive round.

 

Ok. I guess "you get what you pay for" isn't universally true. But it has been my experience with .45ACP ammo for the most part. The stuff I like to practice with (I'm not perfect, either--I carry Federal Hydra-Shok, no way I'm practicing with those), is Sellier&Bellot. Around here it's usually pretty reasonable at about $12/50, but I haven't bought it in a while, either, so it may have gone up. The UMC, if I recall, was about $8/50.

I also try to shoot up my supply of Hydra-Shoks about every year, so that I have to buy new. That way, my carry ammo stays somewhat fresh, and I get to practice with what I carry.

Jason

 

If your using the 230gr Hydra-Shok, the 230gr FMJ Wolf round will be a close facsimile to it. They both have around the same muzzle velocity, and feel similar when fired. But your definately not going to get the consistency in load's that Federal has. Wolf is good ammo, it's just made in Russia for a cheap price and sold in the U.S. for a cheap price. UMC on the another hand, is not what we would expect from Remington. I tried their rifle ammo once, and actually got asked by a new guy at the range if it was my first time firing a rifle. The shots were all over the place. This from a rifle that consistently shoots 1/4 MOA groups.

 

Jason - -

Why shoot up the supply of Hydra-Shoks just to use it up? No need to.
Today, ammo (when stored properly) will keep for years. . . in fact, decades!
I have some 7.92x57mm (8mm Mauser) ammo that was produced in the 1950s, and it goes BANG every time! (And, is accurate, to boot!)

I do disagree with not practicing with that ammo, though. IF you carry a firearm for protection, practice with what you are going to carry, not some 'run of the mill' stuff.
Knowing how a particular ammo shoots could be the difference between walking away, or being carried away (or taking a dirt nap.)
Heck, I've even had different Lot #s shoot differently.

I carry Federal Hydra-Shoks in my .45s. I practice with that stuff, too.
Now, if all I want is trigger time. . . I'll bust caps on whatever I have loaded, even CCI Blazers. (I mean, I got a case of Blazers for $5.00 per box of 50 rounds, on sale.)
I won't change my sights, either. Where the groups go . . . they go. Before ending a session, the 'good stuff goes down the pipe' to make sure my 'zero' is still where it should be.


Don't get me wrong. . . I'm not telling you (or even trying) to tell you how to practice or what to practice with. I've just been there. More than once.


Keith

 

Well, I figure the Hydra-Shoks stay in the gun and extra clip, which mostly stay in the truck, so they see a broad range of temps and humidities, which can't be great for 'em. So I figure if I shoot through them every once in a while, I'll always have somewhat fresh stuff on hand. It's only a box of 20 anyway. I said every year, but I'd bet I'm at least a year or two behind on shooting that stuff up. I just wish I had more time and $$ for target practice. It's great stress relief.

Jason

 

Just to be clear, in case somebody didn't read my first post carefully. The Wolf rounds I reccomended are for PLINKING. What Keith say's above is an absolute MUST. Practice with as many of the rounds you've chosen as your carry rounds as possible. But if you're just looking to have some fun at the range and want an inexpensive and relatively accurate round to plink with try Wolf.

 

my friends uncle has a 50 revolver....crazy