V-10 Oil ?
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V-10 Oil ?
As some of you might have read i locked a V-10 up in an excursion i test drove the other day. Well yesterday the wife and i find an '05 Ex XLT V-10 4x4 fairly loaded w/ 11000miles on it for $25000.00. So we went to look at it. Salesperson comes up and does all the this is that stuff and then asks us if we want to take it for a test drive. I made the comment well as long as it has oil in it. He laughed and then i told him what happend to me a couple of day's ago. So he pops the hood and we check it. Guess what it's just touching the very end of the dip stick. He starts it up thinking i guess somewhere in the engine it's hiding a quart or 2. Lets it warm up, we shut it off and now it seems even lower then before. You could just trace there was oil on the stick. So he scratches his head, then tells us that's not the first time they've had a V-10 with that low of oil but he'd be sure to add a quart before we test drove it. And then responded with at least this still has a warranty on it.
So i guess my ? is, is this a regular thing with the V-10's? Or am i just glutten to shell out every V-10 i come across LOL
So i guess my ? is, is this a regular thing with the V-10's? Or am i just glutten to shell out every V-10 i come across LOL
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Odd you find two in a row of used V10s low on oil
I have 8 2v V10 used in a commercial venture and have owned 2 for my self personally. None of them use any measurable amount between 3000 mile changes using MotorCraft 5W20 exclusively
Years ago there were quite a few posts complaining about high consumption especially when a dealer said a quart every 1000 miles is normal... none of us like to hear that kind of crap. The reality being even this high consumption rate is very rare. Most posters here in the V10 forum spread between no use to 1 quart every oil change. Usually the higher consumption motors are on some higher evaporation rate synthetic oil. Most of the Castrol and Motorcraft users don't report any unusual oil level checks between changes.
So I would say that no the V10 is not generally known as a high oil consumption motor.
I have 8 2v V10 used in a commercial venture and have owned 2 for my self personally. None of them use any measurable amount between 3000 mile changes using MotorCraft 5W20 exclusively
Years ago there were quite a few posts complaining about high consumption especially when a dealer said a quart every 1000 miles is normal... none of us like to hear that kind of crap. The reality being even this high consumption rate is very rare. Most posters here in the V10 forum spread between no use to 1 quart every oil change. Usually the higher consumption motors are on some higher evaporation rate synthetic oil. Most of the Castrol and Motorcraft users don't report any unusual oil level checks between changes.
So I would say that no the V10 is not generally known as a high oil consumption motor.
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As always Fred is exactly right.
Most of our V-10's do not burn oil at all. I have an 02 Ex with 28k on her and she never ever uses any oil between changes at all. Full every time. I use 5w20 MC oil and the MC oil filter and no issues..
Big Rig
Most of our V-10's do not burn oil at all. I have an 02 Ex with 28k on her and she never ever uses any oil between changes at all. Full every time. I use 5w20 MC oil and the MC oil filter and no issues..
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From reading in the oil forum quite a bit, I've realised that synthetics tend to evaporate. 1 quart lost is not uncommon. Also there are many, many people out there that insist on putting 10w40 or 20w50 in these motors, then cry when it starts to use oil or make noises. It is not good for this engine design.
I would want to talk with the prior owner to ask what oil he used or be able to look up service records. Also there are a lot of people who just don't change oil. That 11k Ex may never have had an oil change. Look for a gray oil filter with no logo or sticker on it.
I would want to talk with the prior owner to ask what oil he used or be able to look up service records. Also there are a lot of people who just don't change oil. That 11k Ex may never have had an oil change. Look for a gray oil filter with no logo or sticker on it.
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My 05 V10 is the first engine I have ever owned that does not use any oil when you work it hard , all my other gassers and my last 3 PSDs all used a quart every 1500 miles or so if you were pulling hard on long trips. Not my V10, she likes to pull 5000 RPM going up 8 % grades at 80 miles an hour with a slide in Camper on, passing 460 gassers and stock 7.3 PSDs , like they were standing still . I packed 4 quarts of MC 5-20 with me for topping up on my last 2000 mile trip. I brought them all back full.
I am sold on Motorcraft 5-20 that you buy in the USA. The MC 5-20 that Ford sells in Canada is a different product. It is not a semi synthetic and I did a pour out test on both of them. The US product is lighter in color and feel. I am using up the Canadian stuff in my 02 Honda Accord and it is using a quart every 1000 miles . The Pennsoil 5-20 I used before would go 2000 miles in the Honda so I don't like that Canadian MC oil much and that hurts to admit.
I am sold on Motorcraft 5-20 that you buy in the USA. The MC 5-20 that Ford sells in Canada is a different product. It is not a semi synthetic and I did a pour out test on both of them. The US product is lighter in color and feel. I am using up the Canadian stuff in my 02 Honda Accord and it is using a quart every 1000 miles . The Pennsoil 5-20 I used before would go 2000 miles in the Honda so I don't like that Canadian MC oil much and that hurts to admit.
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fred and don speak the facts again.my 05 has 15 k on it now and uses no oil between my 3k changes. my oil of choice is the euro spec 5w30 castrol syntec made for high reving, hot running ,ohc, turbo motors. and has a higher detergent spec to help keep sludge at bay.
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My 03' V10 running either Motorcraft 5-20 or Mobil 7500 5-20 uses around a quart every 3K miles. It has been that way ever since new. It has 51K on it right now.
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Sounds to me that whoever serviced it doesn't know the '05 and up 3-valve V10's take SEVEN quarts of oil.
'97-'04 take SIX quarts.
My '01 with 6 qts is halfway up the stick - theorizing that they put 6 qts in instead of 7 qts, my 2001 at a quart low would BARELY touch the stick.
'97-'04 take SIX quarts.
My '01 with 6 qts is halfway up the stick - theorizing that they put 6 qts in instead of 7 qts, my 2001 at a quart low would BARELY touch the stick.
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Buy 7 quarts, your oil dip stick is correct, you should always pre fill the filter...
Then add the rest of the first 6 quarts, fire the motor and idle for about half min, then turn off wait a min then check.
Top off untill at top of dip stick hash marks...This can be any where from 6 1/8 quarts to a full 7 quarts depending on the level of your truck.
Then add the rest of the first 6 quarts, fire the motor and idle for about half min, then turn off wait a min then check.
Top off untill at top of dip stick hash marks...This can be any where from 6 1/8 quarts to a full 7 quarts depending on the level of your truck.
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Good catch I missed the E part
Same idea though just a quart less ... I guess... all of the v10 I ever saw had the exact pan underneath so all I can figure is they played games with dip tube and stick lengths over the years.
I get a sneaky suspicion that 7 quarts does NOT over fill this motor design.
My 05 only take aproximatly 6 1/4 quarts to top of hash marks on my level park pad with a nose down 4x4 truck (no leveling kit, and never will be either)
Same idea though just a quart less ... I guess... all of the v10 I ever saw had the exact pan underneath so all I can figure is they played games with dip tube and stick lengths over the years.
I get a sneaky suspicion that 7 quarts does NOT over fill this motor design.
My 05 only take aproximatly 6 1/4 quarts to top of hash marks on my level park pad with a nose down 4x4 truck (no leveling kit, and never will be either)