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For Springerpop?
Hey, the other day you were talking about a 2000 psd with low miles? When you said to look for a goose neck or fifth wheel hitch, and if you found one to run. Just curious about your thinking on this. Thought these trucks were meant to be used for hauling stuff. Or were you talking more to the effect that you wouldn't know how the previuos owner kept it up?
No direspect inteded with this question. Recently I purchased a 2002 psd XLT CC SB 4X4 and it had the goose neck in the bed. Should I have run from this deal? Your comments kinda make me a little nervous. So far the truck runs great. Then again, this is the first diesel truck that I have owned.
I appreciate your honesty on this matter. Thanks in advance, Ray
No direspect inteded with this question. Recently I purchased a 2002 psd XLT CC SB 4X4 and it had the goose neck in the bed. Should I have run from this deal? Your comments kinda make me a little nervous. So far the truck runs great. Then again, this is the first diesel truck that I have owned.
I appreciate your honesty on this matter. Thanks in advance, Ray
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You could have sent a PM to SpringerPop if you wanted just him to see it. but since you did it in the open forum, i feel the need to comment. in stock form, these engines are "fairly" weak (compared to a modified one). even if the owner worked the truck hard, the engine would still be good, as long as he took good care of the truck overall and performed routine maintenance. i have seen powerstrokes in stock form, that go 300,000+ miles. they are in the stock trim, and they still perform as good or really close to as they drove off the showroom floor. if the owner beat the truck and didnt take good care of it, then i would have shyed away from it.
that said- do you know the history of the vehicle such as maintenance records?
that said- do you know the history of the vehicle such as maintenance records?
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Originally Posted by strokin_it7.3
You could have sent a PM to SpringerPop if you wanted just him to see it. but since you did it in the open forum, i feel the need to comment.
well said strokin it. i agree and hopefully your truck was taken care of imray69.
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I don't know how well the previous owner took care of the truck. I guess I was just fishing for some blatant info on what to look for. I personally pull a travel trailer and I also took very good care of my old truck.
Strokin_it7.3, do you mean body wise or engine wise? I guess you mean both. I guess Im just cornfused by how you tell if the engine wasn't taken care of. How would I have known by just looking at a few things to see if there was any sign of wear. I'm new to the diesel side of things. I know that when I pulled my TT last weekend that I hardly even knew it was there. The outside of the truck has a couple of "dings", nothing major but just normal wear and tear.
Sorry about "calling" you out Springerpop. I'm kinda knew at this forum and don't know all the ins and outs of this stuff.
Still confused but getting there. Thanks for being patient with the new kid on the block. Ray
Strokin_it7.3, do you mean body wise or engine wise? I guess you mean both. I guess Im just cornfused by how you tell if the engine wasn't taken care of. How would I have known by just looking at a few things to see if there was any sign of wear. I'm new to the diesel side of things. I know that when I pulled my TT last weekend that I hardly even knew it was there. The outside of the truck has a couple of "dings", nothing major but just normal wear and tear.
Sorry about "calling" you out Springerpop. I'm kinda knew at this forum and don't know all the ins and outs of this stuff.
Still confused but getting there. Thanks for being patient with the new kid on the block. Ray
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The first thing you should check is the antifreeze. If it's the green stuff it needs the special diesel additive in it that contols cavitation damage to the inside of the water jacket. If that checks out ok, you're most likely in possesion of a well serviced truck with a lot of miles in front of it.
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I think the overall condition of the pickup will tell you a lot more about the care it has hade than whether or not it has a ball hitch in the bed. Mine had both a 5th wheel bolster and gooseneck ball int the bed, but that didn't stope me from buying what has turned out to be a very good pickup. You can also tell a lot about how much it has been used for towing by the condition of the ball.
If you are really concerned about the condition of your engine have a used oil analysis done the next time you change oil, they can tell you a lot about the overall health and care it has recieved. If it is an automatic and has been used to tow a lot, I would be much more concerned about the condition of the transmission than the engine.
If you are really concerned about the condition of your engine have a used oil analysis done the next time you change oil, they can tell you a lot about the overall health and care it has recieved. If it is an automatic and has been used to tow a lot, I would be much more concerned about the condition of the transmission than the engine.
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I bought my 00' F350 DRW CC with a Gooseneck in the bed. The guy who owned it before be told me it was ordered that way and it was used twice. I tend to believe him because there is still paint on the ball and safety chain grabs. The truck runs very well and my biggest concern was the Tranny. So far as I can tell the tranny shifts like new, even with a load on it. I would aim your research towards identifying problems with the tranny before I would concern myself with that beefy TE444.
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Ray,
As has already been mentioned in this thread by others, there are more important things than the presence of a heavy-tow hitch involved in descerning the history of a used truck. It only indicates that it MAY have been worked hard. That would likely only be a factor for the transmission, and to a lesser degree, the rear differential.
However, I also mentioned a lot of other things to check for earlier in that same thread:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=421884 . The link is there for you to go back and read. A bunch of others' comments are there, too.
Don't be frightened about the presence of a goose-neck ball or fifth-wheel if all the other things check out. It only indicates truck was used to pull heavy-duty. It's designed to do that very thing. But if not properly cared-for, heavy-duty use will be even harder on the drive train. Descerning previous proper maintenance is the real key, not "*****".
But you are quite correct, what I said, stand-alone, indicates I was using that one criterion as the only indicator. Didn't mean to do that. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
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As has already been mentioned in this thread by others, there are more important things than the presence of a heavy-tow hitch involved in descerning the history of a used truck. It only indicates that it MAY have been worked hard. That would likely only be a factor for the transmission, and to a lesser degree, the rear differential.
However, I also mentioned a lot of other things to check for earlier in that same thread:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=421884 . The link is there for you to go back and read. A bunch of others' comments are there, too.
Don't be frightened about the presence of a goose-neck ball or fifth-wheel if all the other things check out. It only indicates truck was used to pull heavy-duty. It's designed to do that very thing. But if not properly cared-for, heavy-duty use will be even harder on the drive train. Descerning previous proper maintenance is the real key, not "*****".
But you are quite correct, what I said, stand-alone, indicates I was using that one criterion as the only indicator. Didn't mean to do that. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
Pop
Last edited by SpringerPop; Oct 23, 2005 at 11:32 AM.
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