Just wondering if any of you drive on the street in the winter with your off road tires?what's the best super swamper for snow and ice?I know wide tires tend to float on top of snow and mud so wouldn't airing down my tires for winter driving on the street be better?also what about ice covered streets?i would think a tire that is not as wide like maybe a narrow bogger maybe would be a better tire for the ice?I know there is a bogger that is only 11.00 wide so i was thinking of going with those,but you can't stud them.The only tires i know of that have stud holes are ground hawgs are those are pretty wide tires.I was going to put my stock studded snow tires on for winter snow and ice street driving but since i have 5.13 gears i was told id rip the engine out of the truck with them.just wondering what some of you do?any info will help.. ~later~

 

frankly except in very deep snow boggers would probably be your absolute worst tire. the best all around winter tire is an all terrian. Mud tires just don't do well on ice although they do work a little better in snow Ice they just don't have enough grip.

 

Cooper makes M&S tires that can be studded, I last used them on a F-350 plow truck three years ago (no need for snow tires in GA now). What size you need, I do not know. I quickly checked it is called the Courser Traction LT now.

No matter what tire I ran, I deflated my tires to 20 psi for snow and ice driving. Otherwise you end up with a hard wet slick rubber donut that can not get any traction. Conforming to the surface and letting the treads squiggle to get a grip makes all the difference. That and 600 pounds in the back (Ranger) or a load of snow from a front end loader.

 

Here in Michigan, where we average about 80 inches of snow per year, I run my 38 PJs year around. I tried to run my 38 Swampers but they really suck except for drift busting, the PJs work better for that also.

If Goodrich ever makes a 38 - 40 inch AT I will move to that one though, I've had great traction in the winter with ATs. My son uses the Cooper winter tire on his stock truck, they are very sipped like the Blizzacks. He can go most places in 2 wd where I need 4 wd with my big tires.

Run street pressure on snowy streets, you want to dig through the snow to the bottom unless you are drift busting You want to push the slush out from under your tire on the street, not float on top of slush where you get no control. Sipping lets the snow pack into the little cuts which gives you the traction you need. Snow to snow or snow to ice is what makes the winter tires grip.

 

I know that ground hawgs have holes on them for studding them but i never used them.Right now i have super swamper iroks and they have supping but ill tell you on ice coverd roads they don't do well at all.As far as putting stock tires on with a truck that has 5:13 gears im not sure how well that would work out.You know its funny you think that they would make snow tires that are as tall as lets say a 38" super swamper.

 

whatever you get get them siped, even if they already are... have them siped again

-cutts-

 

im pretty sure the hankook tires have stud capabilities, and they have pretty much the same tread pattern as a bfg m/t.

 

hankook tires?are those mud tires off road tires what are they for?

 

i think thats what there called. ive gotone sitting behind the garage, came as a spare for my 88, looks like a bfg mt, but has the stud holes in it. http://www.hankooktireusa.com/produc..._ID=37&CatID=7

 

Hancook is a brand name just like firestone, or BFGoodrich etc they have all types of tires from trailer tires to mud tires to semi tires. Here is a picture of a hancook MT next to a super swamper 34x9.50

 

I run 35x12.50 mud tires most of the year here in snowy western Pa., but in about a month , I'll change over to my B.F.G. 33x10.50 All Terrains. They work very well in all types of winter weather, not to mention they handle dry pavement much better than the M/Ts

 

Big O use to make a nice M&S tire in tall sizes, but, I have not been able to find their OEM site.

 

my daily driver is a gmc sonoma. it's a 2wd w\ a open rear diff. i run blizzaks out back that are studded. i've driven studded and non studded blizzaks and the studs make a HUGE difference. fill up the bed with snow and even with a one wheel wonder, i can get around quite well. whatever you get, you should definately look into having them studded. i've had chains let go and rip up the wheel wells, but you can't beat a set of studded tires.

 

> but you can't beat a set of studded tires

Agreed 100%. The only two bad experiences I ever had with tires were

1) having to take them off at the Canada border
2) my wife sliding through a stop sign and totalling our car

I almost always got studded snow tires for my vehicles and if you have a tire in a rutted snow bank, it is the only way to get traction except for chains. I think studded tires are better then cable chains on ice.

 

I knew Big O used to carry them! I had something like them on my old 1980 E-150.

Check out these 33x12.50x15 snow tires that can be studded:

Control Mesa C/T

http://www.bigotires.com/index.asp?P...Tire=3312.5015