Anybody watch the Fox show on the Apollo Moon Landing "Hoax" last night? I gotta say if anyone had said to me even a week ago that we didn't land on the moon 6 times I'd have laughed in their faces. It's just one of those givens that we did it, right? But...after watching that show last night I'd be hard pressed to say that we actually did land on the moon. There are just too many anomalies that NASA doesn't have legitimate answers for; basically their response to everything was "Of course we landed on the moon, what are you...stupid?" If you get a chance to see it in rerun I recommend it. Once you get past the whole "X-files" atmosphere (it's narrated by the actor who plays A.D. Skinner, Mitch Pileggi) it really is very interesting and raises some serious questions about whether or not NASA perpetrated a 40 billion dollar hoax.

 

I saw it, and I really gotta admit I was taken back by those still photograph discreptencies. Identical backdrops on two different photos supposedly taken miles apart on two different days (one had the lunar module in foreground). Shadows cast in many different directions when there was no supposedly no artificial light source used. allegedly doctored photos (crosshairs were fixed on camera lens, yet objects in picture appear in front of crosshairs). Man, when they doubled up the speed the film, those astronauts sure looked like they were walking around in our own atmosphere to me. I'm not one to jump on conspiracy band wagons, but it sure raised a lot of doubts in my mind. I guess in reality, anything is possible. (no offense intended to any FTEers who are involved with our space program).
Kenny

 

Please keep in mind that it is FOX. Remember when they showed the alien getting de-boned? I will admit that the descrepencies were a bit weird however i still think we went. In the late sixties and early seventys the USSR had radar tracking stations all over the northern hemisphere. They would have noticed that the ship just orbited. Wouldn't have been the first to point it out?

~eriC

 

"We never walked on the moon, Elvis ain't dead, you ain't goin' crazy it's all in your head!"

I agree about the tracking stations. The USSR definetly would have noticed if they just orbited, and they surly would have mentioned it in the last 30 years. Also it would be one thing to fake a lunar mission, but to fake 6(i think) would be grossly more difficult. And think of everything they've done since then. All the books and movies and such. I believe it may be possible that they were faked, but highly unlikely. Who knows?

 

Hard for Me to say one way or the Other. As a Goverment employee, I can sure say that they are all about tricks and deception. I think the Moon Landings are real but I don't really have enough info to back it up either way. Take care all.

Brad Godkin
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[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 24-Mar-01 AT 02:40 AM (EST)[/font][p]I have a question: when you look at the moon with a telescope, aren't you able to see the stuff we left behind (like a flag)?
Mighty_b_giant also has a point about the tracking stations.
Also, about those picture discrepancies...aww, I don't wanna get started. Can't prove a damn thing. the "evidence" is too old and the people looking at it know weren't there for everthing that happened. America needed to be first. We were first. American people happy. Government did it's job, one way or another.


P.S.: I don't wanna sound like I'm all for government conspiracies or anything, just think some things are better left alone, for everyones sake. I mean, what would happen if someone came forward with some solid evidence that showed it was a hoax? Think anyone would trust NASA again? Would that move us forward or backward?

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Do you remember a few years back when Fox aired a show about automobiles that seemed to have minds of their own? Supposedly Mortimer Ford, an illigimate son of Henry Ford, invented the hydrosolator valve and it had been installed in autos since the '20s, causing them to do all kinds of crazy things. They presented all of this on a serious show with clips of cars doing crazy things, testimonials from "victims" and of course everyone who knew anything about Ford and autmobiles knew it was a load of crap. To me Fox is sensationalist TV and I dismissed the Moon Landing show as the same but I will have to admit they did stop and make me think. The part that got me was the Van Allen Belt of radiation that circles the earth. However, as for the rest of it who says that the show didn't doctor the "facts and photos" they presented?
For the time being I'm with NASA on this, but Fox got what they wanted. We watched it didn't we?
Aloha,
Meze

 

Guys, we have to remember we are talking about Fox network here, however, if you look around abit, you can find a lot of skeptics. What one is taught in school and what is true can be very different. Am I the only one who remembers being taught to fear the coming global ice age ? Would human life survive we worried. Now we are told we must fear global warming, which fear is correct? I was also taught that we could never get to the moon alive because the cosmic radiation would kill you as you went past the Van Allen belts. Then, when the landings were alledgedly happening, we all had TVs rolled into the classrooms so we could watch history as it happened. Why such deception ? At the time the Russians were the clear masters of the physical sciences. They had the first satalite, Sputnik, the first low earth orbit, the first spacewalk, and the communist backed forces in Vietnam were really kicking our butts. America needed a 'win' and NASA manufactured it for a huge amont of money. I can't say for sure but am inclined to think we never got there. If we did,six times, how come our shuttle missions are problem filled debacles? Why not go back, just to see how our electric 4wd moon buggy is holding up? I don't think we can get there now, and I don't think we could do it then. I can remember working a computer with my dad, at his employment, in 1970. That computer was as big as the house I live in now, and we were feeding paper punch cards into it. This tech got us to the moon and back? I am doubtful. DF

 

Is everybody who had any involvement in the fake moon landings either dead or bought off millionaires? In my opinion, to pull off a hoax of this magnitude over such a long period of time would be immpossible without someone ratting it out big time. So my question again. Is everyone dead or bought off? Obviously I'm not a believer in conspiracy theories or in any government's ability to keep anything that would be as big as this a secret. NASA and the astronauts did it! As Homer would say "WAHOOOO!"

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[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 25-Mar-01 AT 11:03 AM (EST)[/font][p]They sugguested on the show that each person involved in the lunar landing was responsible for doing just one small part of the entire list of tasks, and may not have been aware if a hoax was being performed. They said it is more likely that only a couple of "top officials" were in on the "whole picture". Some good points are being made here about satellite tracking, how do we know the "theorists" didn't touch up the still photos, and how could we fake 6 landings? I don't know if the USSR satellite tracking system was capable of tracking an Earth orbiting module way back in 1969. I don't know enough about it, so I can't say. If it was all a hoax, it is also possible they orbited the moon but didn't land, or something else. It is true the pictures could have been "doctored" by Fox I suppose. There was no doctoring though on the still photos and movies using the same exact backround, on different days and supposedly miles apart. In my honest opinion, I think it would be very hard to pull off a hoax like this, but not at all impossible. If it was really a hoax, My belief is that maybe it was only the first. I'm still on the fence here, but have some serious doubts about the first landing.
Kenny

 

I was born and raised in the mid-west on the Ohio/Pennsylvania line... and since 1969 some of the Amish around there have declared that the moon landing was all a hoax. I had forgotten about their claims until Fox stirred this up.
'Course they don't believe in driving trucks either - just horses and buggies......hmmm...

 

There is another possiblity that my wife mentioned while we were discussing the issue. Perhaps the reason what we see looks faked is because it is, even though we made it there. What if the astronauts went there and found someting that scared the heck out of them? I can see the fear that the gov't might face if there was evidence that someone had beat us there, what might they not ant us to know? Are the russians not saying anything because they know what is up there and are just as scared as the folks from NASA ? Like has already been said, deception and is what gov't is all about. Did they show us what they thought we expected to see because they think they are protecting us from some horrifing truth? DF

 

DF, That is yet another possibility. Kind of like the "face" on Mars. It doesn't look like a natural formation to me. I'll bet we never find out either way.
Kenny

 

To me this is kinda like saying can you explain the great pyramids? No. So they must not be there, right? I'll probbably start an argument about this but, technology can be lost(example, pyramids) which explains why we cant get back to the moon. What does our current shuttle do? It goes into orbit and remains there for a little while, it never was designed to reach the moon. What is the challenge in reaching the moon? While, in my own opinion the biggest challenge is getting enough fuel, and the apollo rockets were big, they had enough fuel.

What about Y2K? never happened, it was obvious it never would happen, but television still broadcasted that it WOULD HAPPEN. By one theory earth is supposted to be dead right now, we were supposed to be struck by an asteroid and killed off like the dinosaurs. So, just by what I know, I strongly believe the lunar lading did occur, and the "lunar landing hoax" on Fox was just a hoax itself.

Logan

 

>To me this is kinda like
>saying can you explain the
>great pyramids? No. So they
>must not be there, right?
>I'll probbably start an argument
>about this but, technology can
>be lost(example, pyramids) which explains
>why we cant get back
>to the moon.

The difference is that we could build the pyramids with today's technology.

>What does
>our current shuttle do? It
>goes into orbit and remains
>there for a little while,
>it never was designed to
>reach the moon. What is
>the challenge in reaching the
>moon? While, in my own
>opinion the biggest challenge is
>getting enough fuel, and the
>apollo rockets were big, they
>had enough fuel.

I still don't understand your argument here. We have more efficient fuel and rockets that can boost more payload into space. For that matter I believe we could even use the shuttle to boost the parts to build a lander capable of going to the moon & back. We certainly have the computers capable of landing & returning a mission. Why haven't we? Is it the radiation? Would we find out that the debris left from the 6 alleged missions has somehow mysteriously disappeared? Maybe it was never there to begin witn...

>What about Y2K? never happened, it
>was obvious it never would
>happen, but television still broadcasted
>that it WOULD HAPPEN.

Y2K did happen, just not on the scale that the news media and "doom & gloomers" predicted, probably because of those predictions. I personally know that several dozen clients of my company had computer networks running on older non-Y2K compliant Novell OS fail on 1/1/00.

>By one theory earth is supposted
>to be dead right now,
>we were supposed to be
>struck by an asteroid and
>killed off like the dinosaurs.

We could be dead tomorrow from an asteroid strike. It's not a theory, it's simply a matter of time. We share the same space with plenty of giant hunks of rock. We've been struck in the past and we'll be struck in the future.

>So, just by what I
>know, I strongly believe the
>lunar lading did occur, and
>the "lunar landing hoax" on
>Fox was just a hoax
>itself.

Well the show was real, whether or not it's premise was faulty is another matter.