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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 05:39 PM
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I find it curious that you are rejecting Valentine right-off-the-bat.

The president/owner of valentine was one of the principle engineers at Cincinnati Microwave on the development of the original "laptop" escorts, the ones with the yellow beaconed sonar

I remember it used to beep and provide good radio detection and ranging of the police cruiser, as they were all running "always on" radar at full microwave broadcast.

IF you look closely, you will see that both companies still operate out of cincinnati.

West Chester, Ohio (Escort) (Suburb of Cincinnati)
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Blue Ash, Ohio (Valentine One) (Suburb of Cincinnati)

My preference would be Valentine 1.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 07:40 PM
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V1 all the way. I have had two in 12 years or so and an update or two when needed from V1. Never a failure. It does its' job perfect. Instant on radar is well err nothing beats it anyway. If you are going to spend over 250$ for a detector just go ahead and save yourself the time of taking it back to Walmart, and order the V1.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 08:00 PM
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get the 8500 x50 all the reason mentioned here plus it can be upgraded at any time just send it to escort and the software programming can be upgraded plus it is the best you can get for only 330 mine tagged a cop for me about 5 miles out on a flat streth of highway thank gor i had it plus its got the new POP feature and all other laser and radar features
 
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 08:41 PM
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I dont want a V1 because I can get a better deel on the Bel and the Escort.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 08:49 PM
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I have an older Escort 8500 and a newer 8500 X50...both work well and the X50 has been detecting a lot of POP mode radar around my location...being used by the Nevada Highway Patrol as of late. I am pleased with both.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 09:00 PM
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I had the 8500 in my M3 and it was o.k. My next one for the BMW R11RT will be a V1. It IS better.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 10:31 PM
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I have the escort 8500 and it has saved me from getting a few tickets. While we are on the subject, does anyone use a mount that goes up above the rear view mirror with the electrical conection? I hate the cord winding down around the dash. I also would like to free up the 12v outlet for other stuff.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 11:05 PM
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Im getting the power wire installed next tuesday for $35. The power wire kit was $30. I too hate the look of that stretch cord. I have the 8500.

Does anybody know where I can get some Suction cups?
 
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 11:17 PM
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The escort and the Valentine are the two best out there and have been for a long time. I have used and am using the escort 8500 and really like it. On flat land it will pickup better then 5 miles away and even in the hills it will give me enough warning to know Ole smoky is out there before I can see him. The bel is good but I don't think the hold up nearly as well as the escort.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by David1990
I dont want a V1 because I can get a better deel on the Bel and the Escort.
You get what you pay for. You'll never know how useful the "bogey counter" and directional arrows are until you use one. We've taken a 2,000mile round-trip roadtrip with three vehicles... one a V1, one the latest Escort (8500?), one with the latest Bel. My V1 waxed the floor with the Bel and the Escort every time.

Mike Valentine, who I've met at the Dayton Hamvention, built the Escorts but went off and formed his own company after Escort didn't go the way he wanted (or so I understand). He knows his stuff.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 08:51 AM
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Cincinnati Microwave was the manufacturer of the original Escort/Passport detectors. Valentine was the technical guy there. The company split up and Valentine went on his own. Car and Driver magazine periodically does the most objective testing out there. V1 continues to lead the pack. A few years ago, V1 came in first and an original passport came in second even though it had a 0 in the laser testing because it did not have that feature!

Another nice feature of the V1 is that it can not be detected itself (VSG technology). This is important if you drive in a state like Virginia where detectors are illegal.

I use a twenty year old Passport in Maryland but am getting ready to buy a V1 now that MD is going to more laser.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 09:22 AM
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IN most tests the V1, Passport and Bell are all leading the pack with all three coming in top place depending which report you read.

The passport and bell also have stealth technology that renders them undetectable by radar guns. Pretty much a standard feature anymore.

As for picking up laser, well they will all three do that but really all that it is doing is to say "you've been caught"been hit with it a few times and every one of them woul dhave been to late if I had been speeding.

Really boils down to user preference, you can't go wrong with any of the 3.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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Laser detection is a waste

Once you have been hit by the laser, your are busted. It is not like microwave, that paints the entire sky. Your car may be hit and detected by a laser beam, and it may not even hit your detector.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 01:25 AM
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Escort and Beltronis are the same company. The Escort 8500 X50 and the Bel RX65 are the same.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by aladin sane
Once you have been hit by the laser, your are busted. It is not like microwave, that paints the entire sky. Your car may be hit and detected by a laser beam, and it may not even hit your detector.
EXACTLY....

Back in the early 80s, the police radar was on full microwave broadcast ALL of the time. I had one of the CB sized cincinnati microwave escorts back then, and it was like having a sonar in your vehicle.

By now for sure, all agencies have AT LEAST migrated to "instant on". Although true that you may get lucky by picking up a stray reflection and getting a chirp so you can slow down---generally, the dtector going off is a "pull over" command.
 
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