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Oct 5, 2005 | 08:13 PM

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Fordafied

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Originally Posted by countrysF250

ok i gota question it might be a lil off subject but i reacently called a diesel peroformance shop that i had ordered parts from before and asked about egt and that i was not able to stay in to it very long before it hit 1200 then i would back out of it i was wanting to run at the local strip one night and was wondering about other mods to keep temps done and this is what he told me that he had a 02 i think and it has seen 1800* from time to time he told me that runing around at the 1300 mark for short periods of time would not hurt anything and i was just wondering everbodys opinion on this i have seen mione hit 1300 twice because it climbed faster than i could keep my eye on it.

I will agree that short 1/4 mile runs are not long enough (time wise) to hurt the engine. Be sure you cool down before shutting off the engine. Let'er rip

Oct 5, 2005 | 08:17 PM

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countrysF250

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i kinda agreed with him in a way but not real sure it would be a very expensive mistake to have a melt down in one of these trucks but thanks for info

Oct 5, 2005 | 09:34 PM

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cangim

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As far as the location of the probe, I installed mine in the 'Y' pipe where both the left and right side combine prior to the turbo. I used the clamp style, drilling a 1/4" hole seemed a lot easier than tapping it. Also, I drilled the pipe from the top side, was really easy, also my way of thinking was the Y pipe had to be cheaper than replacing a manifold in the event that I screwed it up in the process.

Oct 5, 2005 | 10:16 PM

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444dieselrod

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Originally Posted by Fordafied

Why do most of the exhaust companies weld a bung in the down pipe???????

so that they can sell you a $300 pyro also instead of a lil $120 DP. $120, vs $420. thats why they do it.

Like I said before IH does it pretrubo FACTORY!!!!

If they can survive on a bouncing tractor for 10,000 hours @ 1000*, I am not scared to run mine preturbo, besides, so if it does break, H2E for $400, even with the kit its still under 2K, or melt my engine for 10K or more.

not a tough one to decide. sorry for the rant,

I just don't get it sometimes.

Diesel Rod

Oct 5, 2005 | 10:19 PM

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johnny8

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Originally Posted by wlihntr

the only advantage to installing it post turbo is it may be easier. the temp pre turbo is always going to higher than post, so if you let you pre-turbo temp drop to 300* or under the temp of the turbo will always be lower.
plus, i have never seen where any manufacture or diesel performance company reccomends installing the probe post turbo

i am not sure about this... i know that my pre-turbo egt gauge can read 200-300 degrees within a minute or so of parking my truck, but when i go back and put my had in the exhaust stream it is real hot..! now... i leave it running to cool down for a few minutes and i put my hand back in the exhaust flow and it is barely warm... the egt gauge however still has the same reading... so my deduction is that the turbo gets hot while you are driving, but it requires a certain amount of time with the engine idling and the egts down for the bulk of it's heat to dissapate.... the length of time needed to dissapate the heat depends on many factors including ambient air temp, load that the engine was run under, length of time the engine was run under that load, etc.... we know that your engine is barely burning any fuel while at idle, and mostly just pumping air in and out of the cylinders... this means that allowing your motor time to idle gives that air time to carry that heat away from your turbo... if this is true, your egts will be cool long before your turbo is... jmo here, i could be mistaken...

Oct 6, 2005 | 06:50 AM

#21

Fordafied

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Originally Posted by 444dieselrod

I just don't get it sometimes.

Diesel Rod

I don't get it either! How will a pyro melt an engine. I have not seen any exhaust companies that makes a pyrometer yet. Folks don't understand the very basics. I know when I get close to 900 or 1000 degrees post turbo to let out of it. That seems pretty simple to me. Anyhow, where can you get an H2E for $400. Pick me up one please.

Oct 6, 2005 | 10:41 AM

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444dieselrod

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banks sells the DP and the pyro.

http://www.goldfarbinc.com/goldfarb_turbochargers.htm .....cheap turbo's

http://community.webshots.com/album/342407327koNkmh Link to the 450* difference in pre vs post.

now I will say I have never heard of anyone melting the engine from running a post turbo probe, but, it just seems like preturbo is the real info, and post is more like a guestimate.

sorry to stir up so much debate.

Diesel Rod

Oct 6, 2005 | 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 444dieselrod

Don't be sorry 444dieselrod! I miss having good debates. It use to be pretty fun around here with some of the long gone folks. Like yeti, CWB, abendx and cat_man_963. Everybody has their personal preferences and everything. We cool.
Later

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Oct 6, 2005 | 03:27 PM

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444dieselrod

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LOL. good deal then,

Honestly though I am all out of stuff to use. the propane thread was getting goin pretty good too.

there is a guy around here with a "630 HP" durmax that I can rag on all day so that keeps me entertained pretty good.

Diesel Rod

Oct 7, 2005 | 10:31 AM

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buckshot047

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From: Abbotsford, Wisconsin

pyro

well its gonna be about 2 weeks before I get it in...now the burning question is I have it set on the 65 HP setting for milegae purposes I do not rod on it and about as hard as it gets driven is when I pull out to pass and I do not pull anything just and empty truck with an occasional buck in the back....will it be ok on the 85 HP setting if I dont rod on it....the dealer K and S Injector service told me not to worry about it even on the 1000 HP setting?????????????

Oct 7, 2005 | 10:47 AM

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Fordafied

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I believe you will be OK. Only you can control that part. I would not run the 100hp setting just to be safe until you have the pyro.

Oh, one more thing, where can I get an 1000hp chip.