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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 12:47 PM
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pyro....

where do you put it pre or post turbo...also anyone running the autometer steering column pod? Im only going to be using one guage an autometer ultralite.....also anyone have any suggestions for where to get a good deal on a pod, probe and guage?
 
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 01:09 PM
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pre turbo....
 
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 01:09 PM
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I just ordered the Isspro Boost and Pyro from Diesel Performance Parts with the A-pillar pod mounts. Great stuff and very good price.
Thermocouple will go into the exhaust manifold, pre turbo.
Plus they are a sponsor of this site.
www.dieselperformanceparts.com
 

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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 01:14 PM
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Boy, you are sure wanting to stir up a can of worms with the pre/post pyro thing. Mine is post. The most important thing is to know where the danger line is for pre and where it is for post. It does not really matter pre or post as long as you know that.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 02:43 PM
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Boy, you are sure wanting to stir up a can of worms with the pre/post pyro thing. Mine is post. The most important thing is to know where the danger line is for pre and where it is for post. It does not really matter pre or post as long as you know that.
i have to agree... i will add this though... pre is nice because you get an almost instantaneous read on your egts as you step down on the accelorator... post is nice because you are reading the temp of your turbo... i like the idea of this becuase i like to cool off my turbo, and just letting the pre temps come down is not enough to cool the turbo, the pre turbo egts have to be down with the engine idling for several minutes in order to cool the turbo down, especially after a long run on the highway or doing any towing... some people don't think cooling your turbo down is something you need to do... i respectfully disagree... and since i pay the bills on my truck, my turbo ALWAYS gets cooled down before i shut it down...
 
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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i have to agree... i will add this though... pre is nice because you get an almost instantaneous read on your egts as you step down on the accelorator... post is nice because you are reading the temp of your turbo... i like the idea of this becuase i like to cool off my turbo, and just letting the pre temps come down is not enough to cool the turbo, the pre turbo egts have to be down with the engine idling for several minutes in order to cool the turbo down, especially after a long run on the highway or doing any towing... some people don't think cooling your turbo down is something you need to do... i respectfully disagree... and since i pay the bills on my truck, my turbo ALWAYS gets cooled down before i shut it down...
the only advantage to installing it post turbo is it may be easier. the temp pre turbo is always going to higher than post, so if you let you pre-turbo temp drop to 300* or under the temp of the turbo will always be lower.
plus, i have never seen where any manufacture or diesel performance company reccomends installing the probe post turbo
 
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 03:14 PM
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Mine is installe pre-turbo, and at idle, I run around 400*. I don't think I have ever seen lower than that unless it wasn't running. I just thought that was normal. Did I make a poor assumption?
 
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 04:43 PM
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here is where mine is.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v333/twostrokerocket/DSCF2249.jpg

on the left manifold. mine idles around 250-275.
 

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I noticed in the pic above that you tapped your pyro in and that got me thinking. I used the bandstrap (glorified hoseclamp) that came with my guage kit to hold my pyro in, any cons in my actions.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 05:22 PM
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pyro

ok if I mount it pre turbo it only monitors one side... a pic I saw was in the left bank what about the right bank......I guess that is why I was thinking post turbo because it would be more of an average....just a thought
 
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 05:31 PM
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the reason most people put it in the right exhaust manifold is just that it is easier to get to
 
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 06:26 PM
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the temperatures should relatively be the same side to side, or you have a problem with not all 4 cylinders working properly per side.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 06:52 PM
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Pre turbo.

up to a 450* difference in the pre vs post temp. I have a link if anyone wants to argue that number.

ambient air temp, boost, engine speed, load, air filter quality, exhaust system. all play a roll in the post turbo temps. so many variables to know a "safe number" you wanna protect your alluminum alloy pistons, not your turbo fins.

alluminum melts @ 1250* stainless steel alloy turbo fins, melt at @ 2200* or more.

Internatiol installs all pyro's PRETURBO on the tractors, how is your IH engine any different. food for thought.

If you put it in the left side, you will know LONG before the pyro tells, you if there is a problem on the right side.

Diesel Rod
 
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by wlihntr
the only advantage to installing it post turbo is it may be easier. the temp pre turbo is always going to higher than post, so if you let you pre-turbo temp drop to 300* or under the temp of the turbo will always be lower.
plus, i have never seen where any manufacture or diesel performance company reccomends installing the probe post turbo
Again, as I sated before, as long as you know your danger temp, be it pre or be it post, you are ok. I know this one will stir up some debate also BUT, Should the probe break or something on the pre side, guess where it is going. I know the probe has been around since the caveman invented them and there has "never" been a failure "documented" yada, yada, yada. I am a maintenance mechanic and fix things all the time that "never breaks". Yes, I am the one that still stops R/R crossings because it only takes one time for the switch to not work and the train to hit you. Why do most of the exhaust companies weld a bung in the down pipe???????
 
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 07:33 PM
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ok i gota question it might be a lil off subject but i reacently called a diesel peroformance shop that i had ordered parts from before and asked about egt and that i was not able to stay in to it very long before it hit 1200 then i would back out of it i was wanting to run at the local strip one night and was wondering about other mods to keep temps done and this is what he told me that he had a 02 i think and it has seen 1800* from time to time he told me that runing around at the 1300 mark for short periods of time would not hurt anything and i was just wondering everbodys opinion on this i have seen mione hit 1300 twice because it climbed faster than i could keep my eye on it.
 
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